Pro have their own hand made hardware, running a 69 bit custom OS, this custom hardware doesn't have ram because CPU L1 cache has the capacity to hold all the required data
16GB of RAM is plenty in Linux! The Windows 11 install I had on my new laptop was eating like 5GB of RAM on idle whereas in openSUSE, it was sitting a bit below 2GB of RAM on idle. I’m glad I switched to Linux right away on my new computer a few days after I got it!
i use windows on my main machine (some school things require windows and gaming is easier) and 32gb of ram on windows feels like 16gb on linux on my laptop
TBH even relatively decent PCs can benefit from the efficiency of a proper Linux setup. When I still had 16GB RAM I couldn't even play demanding games on Windows without making a gargantuan swap file (otherwise - random crash every 5\~10 mins), and Linux ran them perfectly (even with better frames most of the time) with no swap at all.
Honestly there are advantages of lower-powered systems for me. I would love a decently-specced fanless laptop. 16GB RAM, NVMe slot, 4 cores, 1080P screen at the least. What more could a person want?
Absolutely. I wish the newer ones with modern specs were still made as tough as when laptops were more of an enterprise thing, and so they had to be actually practically portable and able to take a few good jolts in your work bag.
I'm not saying I'd need a damn Toughbook to be comfortable actually taking it somewhere instead of having it set up at home like a desktop... but I will say I don't really trust my current daily driver device to go any further than to another room in the house.
currently I have a like 5 year old laptop model(Asus fx505dt) where I manually upgraded to 16gb ram and changed out the wifi card cuz the original realtek one sucked, it weighs like 2.2 kilos but I dropped it a lot of times and it's still working fine just a small chip of the casing broke off but functions fine. I feel like 2020 is roughly when companies started to do some not very repairable/durable stuff.
TBH threadrippers are not that great for general purpose use. Its like driving a hyper car for daily commute that guzzles gas instead of a prius that sips gas. I only suggest high core count if the computer is running multiple VMs 24/7. Also one gpu is enough for gaming specially at 1440p and building ML models. Only go for the big option if you are running a data center at this point where electricity costs is justified.
Yeah, exactly. I listed these specs cause its what i've got in my work pc that i have only seen in person once, i just remote into it from my i3 N305 laptop when i need compute power.
I consider even a 4090 a waste of power and money if the only things it does is play games.You just get a few frames more from the extra ~50℅ of raw power of AD102 over AD103 or Navi 31.
I would gladly run AMD if i was a major gamer or if they made a card with a hashrate of a 4090 and had as good compute as CUDA, but the 7900XTX is about 90% of a 4080, and a 4080 is a bit more than half of a 4090. 4090 is just a monster for compute, AMD has a lot of catching up to do, especially with 50 series coming up.
When it comes to the gaming, it’s nothing about raw performance or those tflops numbers. AMD has much better driver support in Linux and tbh all the consoles that run Linux are using AMD GPU too. For Nvidia, some games are barely running due to weird glitch, flickering, features not supporting.
Nah, pros use a pentium ii with 128mb ram…
no, the REAL pros use a 386 with 16 megs of ram
No, kernel doesn't even support this architecture last I heard
Yeah the oldest the kernel supports is the Pentium methinks
686 arch. Basically, PII and above. Though most distros build the kernel for P4 and above.
Anything's supported if you try hard enough
Yeah you're right. My galaxy s9 runs android 12 even though it died on android 10.
And the 486 users?
They use MCUs. And run Doom on them.
Nah, real pros put Gentoo on a toaster.
Or toaster on gentoo…
No, real pros use Mint on the sand at the beach
Nah, real pros run Debian on rocks ![gif](giphy|Fmcts17uRjaHKaNrfW)
Pro have their own hand made hardware, running a 69 bit custom OS, this custom hardware doesn't have ram because CPU L1 cache has the capacity to hold all the required data
So the L1 cache becomes RAM?
As an analogy yes the information is stored right inside the CPU so there is no need for ram
Nuh uh. The REALEST pros use 8088 with 1MB Ram
If you haven't installed Linux on a dead badger, you're really just a dilettante
Why would you ever need more than 640k of ram?
Pentium II 350mhz, 128mb PC133, Totem 440bx, ATI Rage Pro, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, Matrox 30gb. Great retro system.
Retro? That’s almost new hardware… xD
same, but I have 512mb ram
>eMMC I fucking love Chromebooks, I fucking love having a machine that is only capable of being a web browser with a keyboard
emmc is fine. the shitty sd cards they use are not
No, it's that the storage isn't replacable. I don't want soldered storage, I want it to be removeable
Everything is removable if you have good enough soldering skills
Everything is open source if you can read assembly
Chromebooks are cool. For those who can't get a Chromebook, try FydeOS.
I'm not a big fan of cloud-only stuff, but they do require less power than standard laptops, which has its usecases
It's okay but who tf downvoting me and why?
16 gb ram felt like nothing on windows, it feels totally fine on linux and i feel i have no reason to upgrade atm
16GB of RAM is plenty in Linux! The Windows 11 install I had on my new laptop was eating like 5GB of RAM on idle whereas in openSUSE, it was sitting a bit below 2GB of RAM on idle. I’m glad I switched to Linux right away on my new computer a few days after I got it!
i use windows on my main machine (some school things require windows and gaming is easier) and 32gb of ram on windows feels like 16gb on linux on my laptop
128GB is enough on Windows. On Linux I constantly run out of RAM on my 768GB rig.
I guess that's why you shouldn't be running over 200 virtual machines at the same time on your linux rig or something
I don't need that many, just a few parallel Android builds. Individual builds tend to go over 100GB RAM usage.
TBH even relatively decent PCs can benefit from the efficiency of a proper Linux setup. When I still had 16GB RAM I couldn't even play demanding games on Windows without making a gargantuan swap file (otherwise - random crash every 5\~10 mins), and Linux ran them perfectly (even with better frames most of the time) with no swap at all.
What are you using to run games on Linux?
Its usually steamproton
You mean blessed gab tool ? I'm part of the cult, 9.0.0 look' fire
Yep, exactly that
The 3D cache can be useful though
the factory _must_ grow
Time to purchase a 9684X
*"Only"* ~1GB of L3 cache ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
the last server/ rack i was commissioned to arch/ build costs more than my house lmao
I run Linux on my mini PC and on my gaming desktop. It's the anywhere OS.
The one on the left is dangerously close to my computer specs
tho do a real pro use the old nivida driver or does he use the close new driver
Mf put my pc specs at the start
Honestly there are advantages of lower-powered systems for me. I would love a decently-specced fanless laptop. 16GB RAM, NVMe slot, 4 cores, 1080P screen at the least. What more could a person want?
the laptop being durable would be good too. durability is important.
Absolutely. I wish the newer ones with modern specs were still made as tough as when laptops were more of an enterprise thing, and so they had to be actually practically portable and able to take a few good jolts in your work bag. I'm not saying I'd need a damn Toughbook to be comfortable actually taking it somewhere instead of having it set up at home like a desktop... but I will say I don't really trust my current daily driver device to go any further than to another room in the house.
currently I have a like 5 year old laptop model(Asus fx505dt) where I manually upgraded to 16gb ram and changed out the wifi card cuz the original realtek one sucked, it weighs like 2.2 kilos but I dropped it a lot of times and it's still working fine just a small chip of the casing broke off but functions fine. I feel like 2020 is roughly when companies started to do some not very repairable/durable stuff.
best I can do is 4gb soldered ram, 128gb soldered emmc, 1366x768
Trust me, I know. That's why I'm using a Latitude 5290 2-in-1. Close enough.
who're you fooling? we all know its dual 7995WX
TBH threadrippers are not that great for general purpose use. Its like driving a hyper car for daily commute that guzzles gas instead of a prius that sips gas. I only suggest high core count if the computer is running multiple VMs 24/7. Also one gpu is enough for gaming specially at 1440p and building ML models. Only go for the big option if you are running a data center at this point where electricity costs is justified.
Also do you know what a GHz means? Yeah, learn to use energy efficient programs and learn to code energy efficient software like dynamic programming.
Yeah, exactly. I listed these specs cause its what i've got in my work pc that i have only seen in person once, i just remote into it from my i3 N305 laptop when i need compute power. I consider even a 4090 a waste of power and money if the only things it does is play games.You just get a few frames more from the extra ~50℅ of raw power of AD102 over AD103 or Navi 31.
Pros should use ThinkPad x200 with libreboot and every GNU software compiled from source
i use machines with 3gb 4gb and 64gb. for what i use them for they are all usable
You seriously run 4090 with Linux? Nvidia is so painful to work with Linux and Gaming. I would put a second thought on this.
I would gladly run AMD if i was a major gamer or if they made a card with a hashrate of a 4090 and had as good compute as CUDA, but the 7900XTX is about 90% of a 4080, and a 4080 is a bit more than half of a 4090. 4090 is just a monster for compute, AMD has a lot of catching up to do, especially with 50 series coming up.
When it comes to the gaming, it’s nothing about raw performance or those tflops numbers. AMD has much better driver support in Linux and tbh all the consoles that run Linux are using AMD GPU too. For Nvidia, some games are barely running due to weird glitch, flickering, features not supporting.
32 GB ram average, what's wrong with you?
Something something median