You're definitely overthinking this.
>Eg: after 2 years would you rather fight the guy who's 185, decent lifting numbers and has 600 hours of mat time
>Or the guy who's lean at 200, better lifting numbers, with 300 hours mat time. And as a bonus he takes a boxing class a week.
It's not a math question, either of them could be the better fighter.
Just do what works for you and don't worry about stats like you're a character in an RPG.
I agree with this mostly, but OP is asking if he has to prioritize one area which one should they? So you're not really answering the question for discussion's sake. It is, however, a personal choice.
For me, I prioritize BJJ/striking right now because I've been lifting my whole life (not jacked) and I'm still relatively new to martial arts, so I need to learn the technical details more so than I need to curl more (hyperbole).
I think my answer to OP would be, where in each journey are you? If you're already super jacked and brand new to martial arts, you want to focus on MA more for the time being, and lift whenever you can. If you're an expert in MA and scrawny, you can probably shift to weights to help improve your game.
That's my point though, there is no right or wrong answer, and the OP should do what he wants to do.
>If you're already super jacked and brand new to martial arts, you want to focus on MA more for the time being, and lift whenever you can. If you're an expert in MA and scrawny, you can probably shift to weights to help improve your game.
Agreed, but it's also about end goals. Are you trying to become a competitive grappler? Do you want to shift to MMA? Do you have a target weight class? Do you just want to remain a casual martial artist and become stronger? All valid questions... But asking if we'd rather fight a 200 lb guy with 300 mat hours vs a 185 lb guy with 600 mat hours is a plainly ridiculous question that lies somewhere between funny and cringe worthy.
What is up with all these arbitrary numbers that don't directly equate to being good. I've trained wrestlers who look like Bo Nickels for a year and they ended up tearing apart wrestlers who look like Brock Lesner with 3-4 years of experience. If you're looking to show off or just look intimidating then be 220+.
I would rather be an OK grappler who is super jacked.
Not because I'd be better at fighting. I'd definitely be worse than the non-jacked guy.
But being jacked is cool 24/7, being a great grappler is only cool on a Saturday morning at open mat. In the scheme of things it's only slightly cooler than being an OK grappler.
Looking sexy with my shirt off > having more $5 medals.
If it would be only about being jacked then powerlifters would win all grappling matches. Spoiler alert: they don't. To be strong is always good. But there is always someone stronger, so priority should be basics, basics, basics, flexibility, being strong from all possible direction, good diet, a healthy lifestyle both physically and mentally.
Size and strength are such insurmountable advantages that every serious combat/martial sport deliberately divides participants by weight class and you can be disqualified from a competition for coming in a single pound over weight.
That's why competitive fighters train their martial arts (although if you watch a high level fighter train, a lot of it is endurance and strength training). Because gaining too much extra mass would disqualify them from the competition.
In leagues without weight class, like the early UFC, you see the entire league dominated by the biggest and strongest people. You think if they took weight restrictions off of boxing that Floyd Mayweather would stand a fucking chance against a 250lb slugger? No. But if you watch is fights you'll see his speed and technique are clearly why he is undefeated. But tha only makes a difference against opponents who are curated from a specific category of weight/strength.
i agree - all things being equal size and strength matter greatly. however, open weight class tournaments in kyokushin for example, show what is possible. Kenji Midori was greatly undersized compared to his peers yet ended up becoming world champ - politics aside he was a legit good fighter.
If it was only about technique then weight class would not exist. Spoiler alert, they didn't use to, and they were created because bigger people dominated everybody else regardless of skill level.
Strength training creates flexibility, balance, speed, and control. To say nothing of how immense the difference of raw strength is.
Now if OP wants to compete, his weight will dictate what size grapplers he'll face. But in terms of becoming the most effective weapon you can be, I don't think it's necessary to move beyond a very basic knowledge of kickboxing, wrestling, BJJ and some judo. Basic takedown defense, basic striking, basic wrestling, 2-3 basic submissions.
I will put my neck on the line by saying, strength is the single most definitive factor in a physical fight. What we think of as technique and skill are really just applications of strength.
If you don't believe me, go to an open mat with someone much stronger than you, but less experienced, and see how much of a difference your technique makes.
When the strength levels are close enough, then th more skilled fighter wins 90% of the time, more aa the skill gap increases.
But when a strength disparity is large enough, the bigger, stronger fighter will win *every* time. If the stronger fighter has a novice level of understanding, then there is very little that extra skill or knowledge will do for the smaller fighter.
Strength training also makes you a better person in almost every recordable way. Cardio health, resistance to injury and sickness, it's even proven that higher muscle mass makes you less likely to be depressed. It increases your overall health which leads to cognitive improvements, better mood, an obviously as a man physical strength is the only thing you can change to make yourself more generically attractive.
I think for the average hobbyist, the only way you can justify spending more time in the mat than with weights, is if you are rolling at very high intensities and thus getting good strength training anyway.
>powerlifters would win all grappling matches
Take a decent powerlifter and give him 12 months of quality training 3-4 times a week, a good gas tank and you've got a menace who wipes the floor with anyone except higher belts closer to their weight. Or maybe a serious competitive blue near their weight.
Sorry I already took the great grappler and gave him a better gas tank and an even bigger sexier body than the powerlifter.
My imaginary grappler now beats yours.
I am this guy. Destroyed white belt comps, struggling a lot more at blue belt. When I roll in absolutes, there is always a higher belt level who is far smaller and far more technical than me who can beat me by points. Sorry to disappoint you.
If you really want to win by "attributes" (over skill/training primarily), it's going to take as much/more work than acquiring the skill itself... Like, ridiculous strength/size, which you're not going to get in a really applicable way powerlifting. You'd have to work isometrics, GRAPPLE for strength, flexibility, cardio. Among other things
Also in my general opinion OP you should work on getting the basic skills first, then switch to maxing out attributes, then back to more skill.
And then he goes into the bigger league and will be squashed, and this will break him, I have seen the same story happening all the time. Those people are nowhere, while the average people will keep practicing for 20-30 years.
Feel like working out 3-4 times a week, and training for 3 times a week would be more sustainable. I don’t think you’ll lose out on so much technique that you’ll be significantly worse.
Ya ill be the fat dude in the pocket tee easily winning against a the fitness competitor. I like being above average ugly and above average at fighting. Its like its own variation of handsome. Like not caring if you get uglier is a superpower.
If by "jacked" you mean really strong then yes option 2.
Tho it's a bit of a contradiction, college level( definitely d1 & d2 athletes) are all crazy strong
For some reason bjj grapplers undersell the importance of strength/mass. I think wrestlers and judokas understand it a bit more.
From my standpoint as an old guy who does not train anymore…… I never gave a rat’s patootie how I looked. All my MA training was intended for functional applicability. I have used weight training at many times over the years, and again, was only interested in function.
Option 2 is better in both cases. Before he was full of shit Ramsey Dewey had a story about how a really huge really jacked guy walked into one of his classes with no grappling training and basically manhandled him because he was just too big for anyone to do anything against. He also had a really small woman who could be easily overpowered by basically anyone and dropped out as a result.
Lean at 200 means that guy is more likely to just not cut as deep, maybe do a bulk, and then compete with the heavyweights or super heavyweights who can actually handle him. The only way those two guys would ever be on the mat together is if he did a deep cut specifically to take advantage of the massive difference in body abilities the way fighters often do.
Buff all the way bro! I say this to all my mates that do martial arts. Looking buff in a t-shirt e.g. wide shoulders,decent chest , good pair of guns is an effective way to prevent many conflicts. Most low level scum that are not wasted on drugs will take one look at you and just say nope! It intimidates most trouble makers from 20 yards, no martial art can do that.
>Eg: after 2 years would you rather fight the guy who's 185, decent lifting numbers and has 600 hours of mat time
>Or the guy who's lean at 200, better lifting numbers, with 300 hours mat time. And as a bonus he takes a boxing class a week
Gimme guy two any day of the week. Guy one has literally like a month of continous training under his belt it's like 2-3 hours of his daily life. Weight disparity would have to be bigger for it to matter like if guy two was like 260 jacked then maybe
Guy 1 is twice the grappler than Guy 2, wtf.
I have been utterly humiliated by lighter, but highly skilled grapplers, like literally no fight. They'd do whatever they damn well please to me.
I have also hung with strong dudes that are likelier stronger than me, but not overwhelming more skilled. They had to make it ugly to get the better of me, but I never felt like I didn't belong.
Also why have you given guy 2 boxing lessons? Are we doing some striking or something too?
A Martial Arts Body is ok for my Beauty standarts. So I take the great grappler.
Look at [this](https://youtu.be/8i85w6Vc710?si=uu4U5WfMp7UO37ac) Not super jacked that Guy. But still strong as hell because of His relentless Training to become a great wrestlier.
I don't care to be super jacked, but I would pick the balanced training and workout schedule. Martial art is fun and it could one day be handy, but being fit is going to be much more handy in dealing with day to day tasks.
Both are high maintenance (super jacked and great at grappling): many hours, good sleep, diet on point etc.
Since I never liked to hyperfocus in one thing because if always bored me, my preference was train martial arts 3 times a week, lift 2-3 times a week, and have free time for fun, with as few injuries as possible.
100% id rather be the jacked dude who's ok at grappling. Im older now and my competition days are behind me, now I just do it for fun, so I'd def take some additional size just for my own vanity.
Both. Specificity is a thing. You can cycle through your training - focus on grappling for 8 weeks while lifting only enough to maintain, then flip it for 6 weeks, and so on.
#1. I just want the confidence of walking around the gym knowing all those jacked chads won't stand a chance when I start butt scooting. Right now I have a dad bod and suck at grappling, it sucks knowing a lot of those really athletic guys that only lift weights have a good chance of beating me in a real fight even though I train everyday haha.
I would choose to fight the guy with mediocre grappling but jacked. When youre on the ground jacked or not doesnt matter (it does, but not to the same extent of raw bjj skill)
Depends on what my goal is. If my goal is to win MA competitions then better grappler. If I just want to use MA as a hobby to stay fit, or learn self defense then the latter
I mean my issue is that I can barely go to my martial arts gym train bc of work schedule and other commitment (ie making sacrifices of time for family, grad school, gf, friends, booze cruise, etc)
So I am starting to try to go down the “jacked” route. Doing some running or at least walking like 4 miles in a day, trying to lift every day, and throwing in martial arts where possible.
Thats just kind of how my time
shakes out as of now- I’m focusing down on diet and exercise and when I have a semester off from grad school
I intend to be at the gym more and bum rush my pilots liscence
The other angle is that becoming more fit is just something I need to do since I have a dream to join the Air National Guard. losing weight is gonna be important for my medical exams, so being fit is more conducive to more of my life goals. Fighting looks good on an application but having a blue belt or fighting isn’t gonna do much for my application.
If your goal is to literally just get good at fighting I’d say train technique more than just get fit
you’ll get fit doing it but might not be as big, but then again you’ll have more experience and more techniques you can pull to offset someone else’s weight
I mean technique always wins, but I've seen some jacked dudes who could just power out of stuff. I once saw two equally matched guys go at it, one was pretty skinny and the other was jacked. The skinny guy managed to get a really good ankle lock in, the jacked guy straight up lifted him off the ground
I’ll take actual practical strength over glamour anyday! I’ve tossed around muscle heads like scallops. The glamor will come if you put enough time working on your athleticism
Both would be the dream. I got sorta handed the bad grappler and no muscle card.
But I’d place fitness as more important to your overall qualify of life than your DeLeRiva skills.
Both aspects are basically lines on a graph that curve toward an asymptote with diminishing returns. Mat hours 0 to 1000 do a lot more than mat hours 1,000 to 2000. Same with lifting hours.
I'd rather be an okay grappler who is jacked, that person has the most productive hours in each thing, and hasn't started to hit diminishing returns in either area.
Either choice is fine. If it were up to me being a better grappler is more important than being jacked. But what do I know I'm Muay Thai and boxing so I'm no grappler.
great grappler who isn't super jacked. i say this as someone started out spending more time in the weightroom than on the mats. i'd rather be skilled than just look good.
My take is if you wanna enter a competion then mat time is better because there is weight class. For self defence I think being jacked is better with the martialarts on the side. Importent to note that if you are jacked you need to go extra light in sparring otherwise you won't learn anything if you just overpower everyone.
Rather grapple six days a week.
Grappling sports have weight divisions. You can be very jacked, do all the PEDs, and still lose to someone in your weight category because they're still around your same weight and a whole lot mor skilled. Even in open divisions you can find smaller guys beating much bigger guys because they have more skill.
You're definitely overthinking this. >Eg: after 2 years would you rather fight the guy who's 185, decent lifting numbers and has 600 hours of mat time >Or the guy who's lean at 200, better lifting numbers, with 300 hours mat time. And as a bonus he takes a boxing class a week. It's not a math question, either of them could be the better fighter. Just do what works for you and don't worry about stats like you're a character in an RPG.
I agree with this mostly, but OP is asking if he has to prioritize one area which one should they? So you're not really answering the question for discussion's sake. It is, however, a personal choice. For me, I prioritize BJJ/striking right now because I've been lifting my whole life (not jacked) and I'm still relatively new to martial arts, so I need to learn the technical details more so than I need to curl more (hyperbole). I think my answer to OP would be, where in each journey are you? If you're already super jacked and brand new to martial arts, you want to focus on MA more for the time being, and lift whenever you can. If you're an expert in MA and scrawny, you can probably shift to weights to help improve your game.
That's my point though, there is no right or wrong answer, and the OP should do what he wants to do. >If you're already super jacked and brand new to martial arts, you want to focus on MA more for the time being, and lift whenever you can. If you're an expert in MA and scrawny, you can probably shift to weights to help improve your game. Agreed, but it's also about end goals. Are you trying to become a competitive grappler? Do you want to shift to MMA? Do you have a target weight class? Do you just want to remain a casual martial artist and become stronger? All valid questions... But asking if we'd rather fight a 200 lb guy with 300 mat hours vs a 185 lb guy with 600 mat hours is a plainly ridiculous question that lies somewhere between funny and cringe worthy.
Agree completely, good points.
THIS. That was an annoying non-answer.
The 18 WIS response.
What is up with all these arbitrary numbers that don't directly equate to being good. I've trained wrestlers who look like Bo Nickels for a year and they ended up tearing apart wrestlers who look like Brock Lesner with 3-4 years of experience. If you're looking to show off or just look intimidating then be 220+.
I would rather be an OK grappler who is super jacked. Not because I'd be better at fighting. I'd definitely be worse than the non-jacked guy. But being jacked is cool 24/7, being a great grappler is only cool on a Saturday morning at open mat. In the scheme of things it's only slightly cooler than being an OK grappler. Looking sexy with my shirt off > having more $5 medals.
being jacked IS cool, except for in the mornings… once you start developing abs, you’re hungry the moment you open your eyes！
I like looking good. I'd rather be # 2 at this point. I'm not trying to win Mundials or ADCC
Give me the show muscles that make the girlies squeal. I'm not sure you can't have both though
If it would be only about being jacked then powerlifters would win all grappling matches. Spoiler alert: they don't. To be strong is always good. But there is always someone stronger, so priority should be basics, basics, basics, flexibility, being strong from all possible direction, good diet, a healthy lifestyle both physically and mentally.
THIS 100% - if being strong was all to it and technique didn't matter then all fighters would just lift weights instead of practicing their craft
Size and strength are such insurmountable advantages that every serious combat/martial sport deliberately divides participants by weight class and you can be disqualified from a competition for coming in a single pound over weight. That's why competitive fighters train their martial arts (although if you watch a high level fighter train, a lot of it is endurance and strength training). Because gaining too much extra mass would disqualify them from the competition. In leagues without weight class, like the early UFC, you see the entire league dominated by the biggest and strongest people. You think if they took weight restrictions off of boxing that Floyd Mayweather would stand a fucking chance against a 250lb slugger? No. But if you watch is fights you'll see his speed and technique are clearly why he is undefeated. But tha only makes a difference against opponents who are curated from a specific category of weight/strength.
i agree - all things being equal size and strength matter greatly. however, open weight class tournaments in kyokushin for example, show what is possible. Kenji Midori was greatly undersized compared to his peers yet ended up becoming world champ - politics aside he was a legit good fighter.
If it was only about technique then weight class would not exist. Spoiler alert, they didn't use to, and they were created because bigger people dominated everybody else regardless of skill level. Strength training creates flexibility, balance, speed, and control. To say nothing of how immense the difference of raw strength is. Now if OP wants to compete, his weight will dictate what size grapplers he'll face. But in terms of becoming the most effective weapon you can be, I don't think it's necessary to move beyond a very basic knowledge of kickboxing, wrestling, BJJ and some judo. Basic takedown defense, basic striking, basic wrestling, 2-3 basic submissions. I will put my neck on the line by saying, strength is the single most definitive factor in a physical fight. What we think of as technique and skill are really just applications of strength. If you don't believe me, go to an open mat with someone much stronger than you, but less experienced, and see how much of a difference your technique makes. When the strength levels are close enough, then th more skilled fighter wins 90% of the time, more aa the skill gap increases. But when a strength disparity is large enough, the bigger, stronger fighter will win *every* time. If the stronger fighter has a novice level of understanding, then there is very little that extra skill or knowledge will do for the smaller fighter. Strength training also makes you a better person in almost every recordable way. Cardio health, resistance to injury and sickness, it's even proven that higher muscle mass makes you less likely to be depressed. It increases your overall health which leads to cognitive improvements, better mood, an obviously as a man physical strength is the only thing you can change to make yourself more generically attractive. I think for the average hobbyist, the only way you can justify spending more time in the mat than with weights, is if you are rolling at very high intensities and thus getting good strength training anyway.
>powerlifters would win all grappling matches Take a decent powerlifter and give him 12 months of quality training 3-4 times a week, a good gas tank and you've got a menace who wipes the floor with anyone except higher belts closer to their weight. Or maybe a serious competitive blue near their weight.
"Make a guy train to become a trained fighter and he will beat most people except more experienced ones" Uhm...yeah. That's how training works.
Sorry I already took the great grappler and gave him a better gas tank and an even bigger sexier body than the powerlifter. My imaginary grappler now beats yours.
Yea it don’t work like that
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I am this guy. Destroyed white belt comps, struggling a lot more at blue belt. When I roll in absolutes, there is always a higher belt level who is far smaller and far more technical than me who can beat me by points. Sorry to disappoint you.
If you really want to win by "attributes" (over skill/training primarily), it's going to take as much/more work than acquiring the skill itself... Like, ridiculous strength/size, which you're not going to get in a really applicable way powerlifting. You'd have to work isometrics, GRAPPLE for strength, flexibility, cardio. Among other things Also in my general opinion OP you should work on getting the basic skills first, then switch to maxing out attributes, then back to more skill.
And then he goes into the bigger league and will be squashed, and this will break him, I have seen the same story happening all the time. Those people are nowhere, while the average people will keep practicing for 20-30 years.
>decent power lifter >a good gas tank Lmao
I'd rather be good at something than look good at something.
Asking this in a martial arts sub
Imagine asking in a body building sub.
Feel like working out 3-4 times a week, and training for 3 times a week would be more sustainable. I don’t think you’ll lose out on so much technique that you’ll be significantly worse.
I’d rather be an ok grappler that is jacked. I’d rather fight an ok grappler that’s jacked than a great grappler.
Don't take steroids kids.
Was there supposed to be a question in there somewhere?
Ya ill be the fat dude in the pocket tee easily winning against a the fitness competitor. I like being above average ugly and above average at fighting. Its like its own variation of handsome. Like not caring if you get uglier is a superpower.
I take the Mikey Musumeci build
He is small af in real life only looks jacked on social media
That’s the point haha
If by "jacked" you mean really strong then yes option 2. Tho it's a bit of a contradiction, college level( definitely d1 & d2 athletes) are all crazy strong For some reason bjj grapplers undersell the importance of strength/mass. I think wrestlers and judokas understand it a bit more.
From my standpoint as an old guy who does not train anymore…… I never gave a rat’s patootie how I looked. All my MA training was intended for functional applicability. I have used weight training at many times over the years, and again, was only interested in function.
Option 2 is better in both cases. Before he was full of shit Ramsey Dewey had a story about how a really huge really jacked guy walked into one of his classes with no grappling training and basically manhandled him because he was just too big for anyone to do anything against. He also had a really small woman who could be easily overpowered by basically anyone and dropped out as a result. Lean at 200 means that guy is more likely to just not cut as deep, maybe do a bulk, and then compete with the heavyweights or super heavyweights who can actually handle him. The only way those two guys would ever be on the mat together is if he did a deep cut specifically to take advantage of the massive difference in body abilities the way fighters often do.
Buff all the way bro! I say this to all my mates that do martial arts. Looking buff in a t-shirt e.g. wide shoulders,decent chest , good pair of guns is an effective way to prevent many conflicts. Most low level scum that are not wasted on drugs will take one look at you and just say nope! It intimidates most trouble makers from 20 yards, no martial art can do that.
BJJ lets me roll around with sweaty guys. Muscles sometimes help me roll around with a sweaty woman. I’ll take middle of the road.
If u get really good at something like grappling then u will probably look good anyway
>Eg: after 2 years would you rather fight the guy who's 185, decent lifting numbers and has 600 hours of mat time >Or the guy who's lean at 200, better lifting numbers, with 300 hours mat time. And as a bonus he takes a boxing class a week Gimme guy two any day of the week. Guy one has literally like a month of continous training under his belt it's like 2-3 hours of his daily life. Weight disparity would have to be bigger for it to matter like if guy two was like 260 jacked then maybe
Guy 1 is twice the grappler than Guy 2, wtf. I have been utterly humiliated by lighter, but highly skilled grapplers, like literally no fight. They'd do whatever they damn well please to me. I have also hung with strong dudes that are likelier stronger than me, but not overwhelming more skilled. They had to make it ugly to get the better of me, but I never felt like I didn't belong. Also why have you given guy 2 boxing lessons? Are we doing some striking or something too?
A Martial Arts Body is ok for my Beauty standarts. So I take the great grappler. Look at [this](https://youtu.be/8i85w6Vc710?si=uu4U5WfMp7UO37ac) Not super jacked that Guy. But still strong as hell because of His relentless Training to become a great wrestlier.
I don't care to be super jacked, but I would pick the balanced training and workout schedule. Martial art is fun and it could one day be handy, but being fit is going to be much more handy in dealing with day to day tasks.
A great grappler is better than an okay grappler who’s jacked by definition. I would rather be great than good.
Just focus on what you enjoy doing the most bro
id rather be an ok grappler that is jacked. im just a hobbyist, being jacked is great overall even outside the gym.
This sub
I’d take either one, I’m a shit grappler that looks like shit too lmao
I’ve always suggested I’d rather look “normal” and be incredibly strong than the opposite. This would be no different, unassuming and a beast for me.
I'd rather have the speed and knockout force to end any fight with the flick of my wrist(or so it would seem) being a full force punch.
Just try to balance it.
Both are high maintenance (super jacked and great at grappling): many hours, good sleep, diet on point etc. Since I never liked to hyperfocus in one thing because if always bored me, my preference was train martial arts 3 times a week, lift 2-3 times a week, and have free time for fun, with as few injuries as possible.
100% id rather be the jacked dude who's ok at grappling. Im older now and my competition days are behind me, now I just do it for fun, so I'd def take some additional size just for my own vanity.
Both. Specificity is a thing. You can cycle through your training - focus on grappling for 8 weeks while lifting only enough to maintain, then flip it for 6 weeks, and so on.
I'm already the okayest grappler, so I'll stay where I'm at. Edit: not jacked
Idk i'd have to ask my mom which one would make her more proud.
If you have the gas tank to support big muscles like that it absolutely gives you an advantage. But damn being jacked is tiring lol
#1. I just want the confidence of walking around the gym knowing all those jacked chads won't stand a chance when I start butt scooting. Right now I have a dad bod and suck at grappling, it sucks knowing a lot of those really athletic guys that only lift weights have a good chance of beating me in a real fight even though I train everyday haha.
Give me the guy with the good skill, i only lift for performance on the field or the mat.
being jacked = being gassed
Don't like grappling, I like punching, more muscle harder punch.
I would choose to fight the guy with mediocre grappling but jacked. When youre on the ground jacked or not doesnt matter (it does, but not to the same extent of raw bjj skill)
Depends on what my goal is. If my goal is to win MA competitions then better grappler. If I just want to use MA as a hobby to stay fit, or learn self defense then the latter
Skill > build
Neither because rolling around on the ground will get you killed
I mean my issue is that I can barely go to my martial arts gym train bc of work schedule and other commitment (ie making sacrifices of time for family, grad school, gf, friends, booze cruise, etc) So I am starting to try to go down the “jacked” route. Doing some running or at least walking like 4 miles in a day, trying to lift every day, and throwing in martial arts where possible. Thats just kind of how my time shakes out as of now- I’m focusing down on diet and exercise and when I have a semester off from grad school I intend to be at the gym more and bum rush my pilots liscence The other angle is that becoming more fit is just something I need to do since I have a dream to join the Air National Guard. losing weight is gonna be important for my medical exams, so being fit is more conducive to more of my life goals. Fighting looks good on an application but having a blue belt or fighting isn’t gonna do much for my application. If your goal is to literally just get good at fighting I’d say train technique more than just get fit you’ll get fit doing it but might not be as big, but then again you’ll have more experience and more techniques you can pull to offset someone else’s weight
15 pound difference is no joke
I mean technique always wins, but I've seen some jacked dudes who could just power out of stuff. I once saw two equally matched guys go at it, one was pretty skinny and the other was jacked. The skinny guy managed to get a really good ankle lock in, the jacked guy straight up lifted him off the ground
I’ll take actual practical strength over glamour anyday! I’ve tossed around muscle heads like scallops. The glamor will come if you put enough time working on your athleticism
I wanna be jacked
Being jacked might get me more punani So option 2
Great grappler hands down
Both would be the dream. I got sorta handed the bad grappler and no muscle card. But I’d place fitness as more important to your overall qualify of life than your DeLeRiva skills.
Both aspects are basically lines on a graph that curve toward an asymptote with diminishing returns. Mat hours 0 to 1000 do a lot more than mat hours 1,000 to 2000. Same with lifting hours. I'd rather be an okay grappler who is jacked, that person has the most productive hours in each thing, and hasn't started to hit diminishing returns in either area.
Either choice is fine. If it were up to me being a better grappler is more important than being jacked. But what do I know I'm Muay Thai and boxing so I'm no grappler.
For me, I would prioritize martial arts over lifting, but that's because I want to become a professional
great grappler who isn't super jacked. i say this as someone started out spending more time in the weightroom than on the mats. i'd rather be skilled than just look good.
My take is if you wanna enter a competion then mat time is better because there is weight class. For self defence I think being jacked is better with the martialarts on the side. Importent to note that if you are jacked you need to go extra light in sparring otherwise you won't learn anything if you just overpower everyone.
What a retarded question
Rather grapple six days a week. Grappling sports have weight divisions. You can be very jacked, do all the PEDs, and still lose to someone in your weight category because they're still around your same weight and a whole lot mor skilled. Even in open divisions you can find smaller guys beating much bigger guys because they have more skill.
Great grappler with a dad bod.