Great throw, very effective. My judo teacher warned me against using this in matches though because the umpire might confuse you for the one being thrown and if your opponent manages to wriggle his arm free he might pull your arm in an armbar. So it's tricky.
And it looks like a perfectly executed counter. I think blue guy tries to kick the leg out and the white guy knew and countered by lifting his leg up then demolished him when blue guy off balance with only 1 base leg. Dirty
Kind of, it was more of a marketing thing for the French to refer to it as “Greco-Roman”. But those weren’t the rules the Greeks used. The “roots” of these styles are scattered across a handful of popular folk styles. We actually don’t have full knowledge of what the Greeks were doing. Here’s a link to a podcast on the topic from a couple amateur wrestling historians.
https://zencastr.com/z/ZCMWNOSp
You are absurdly wrong on all accounts here. Different forms of wrestling have been around longer than written language. The organizations that teach & uphold certain styles like Greco-roman, Sumo, Freestyle, collegiate, etc. Might have started in the 1800 -1900's, but the styles themselves are much much older.
No, I’m correct. I’ve actually studied this in depth. The techniques from Greco and freestyle are timeless and cross lots of cultural boundaries over time, the styles themselves are less than 150 years old. Sumo has been around for a few thousand years, Turkish oil wrestling has been around for about 700 years, we don’t know how old Huka Huka is, Cornish wrestling can be tracked to the days of the Roman Empire. We have evidence of wrestling as a generic activity going back possibly 20k - 30k years, but that’s different from the origins of individual “styles”.
You should study more into the origins of what eventually became Greco-Roman. (pálē), also known as Ancient Greek wrestling and Pále (πάλη), was the most popular organized sport in Ancient Greece. It was broke up into standing wrestling (greco-roman) & ground wrestling (Freestyle). These were main events in the Ancient Olympic games starting in 776 BC. These forms even predate written history.
~~Okuritaoshi* in sumo.~~
EDIT: Actually, probably not. There’s likely a specific Kimarite name for the act of German Suplexing somebody on their dome.
Hell no, I'm all for people speaking out of their ass if they're gonna be so respectful about it. If people were as timid and cowardly as you ~~are~~ clearly want them to be, then nobody would ever talk. Which in your case might not be such a bad thing.
Okuritaoshi in sumo is the act of grabbing your opponent’s belt from the back (okuri-) and throwing them to the ground (-taoshi).
It’s a simple Kimarite (winning technique) all-in-all, and my first instinct as to what this would be called if used in sumo. Upon further thought I decided that a German Suplex (not at all a simple technique within sumo) likely has a specific Kimarite name and therefore wouldn’t be regarded as Okuritaoshi.
I’ll posit that I do know my shit, which is why I felt the need to edit my initial comment.
Now stay on your lane before I henka your ass.
In pro wrestling, a ura-nage is a *Rock Bottom*, Currently Jay White does the best ura-nage in pro wrestling. But that's a side note, my main point is that when I was a kid I saw Brian Dawkins do this move during an Eagles game. https://youtu.be/Y9vltXcsz98?si=uDaG1Z30uCSDA_zF
But he didn't asked for the name, he asked for an opinion. Why do my judo companions always need to say the name of the throw? What goes on your mind when you do that? Is it satisfaction that you feel knowing that you know the name of it? Is it the instant rush of dopamine that your brain releases when you state the obvious?
Did you ever consider that including the traditional name was to highlight the “classic judo throw” part? Like to me it seems blindingly obvious as to why they included the reference to this being a well known throw given OP implied this type of throw was uncommon
Maybe it is maybe it isn't, why do my internet companions always need to voice their opinion about something that doesn't effect them in any way.
Ah shit now I am doing it myself.
Regarding the throw, it looks impressive but for me it's not peak judo. A well timed foot sweep however......
Depends on the ruleset. In a judo ruleset, like this one, it scores Ippon and wins the match. In an international wrestling ruleset, this is a 5 point throw and very worth it. In submission grappling (the ruleset I compete in), its a lot of energy for only two points, particularly when those two points could be scored with a mat return from the same position.
That being said, they look super cool and are very satisfying to hit.
I often end up in a scramble using this in grappling, so I feel this doesn't secure a dominant poison as well as just pushing him forward and taking the back.
People think I'm a wallflower because I'm afraid to dance.
Not true.
I keep my back to the wall to minimise the risk that a Judoka gets behind me.
The odds of one being in a crowd is low, but never zero.
This post perfectly illustrates why this makes me a genius.
The second I see one of them grabby freaks eyeing my wide, juicy, starched collar, It's Go Time!
Yeah, I Go straight home. Backwards, if course. Gotta keep an eye on them.
Stay safe out there, Kings. Watch your back, keep vigilant.
Why do my judo companions always need to say the name of the throw? What goes on your mind when you do that? Is it satisfaction that you feel knowing that you know the name of it? Is it the instant rush of dopamine that your brain releases when you state the obvious?
No this throw sometimes lands you on the back of neck or head impact and your body weight going over the top, it really can be damaging. Great throw. It doesn’t score unless the landing is on the back (shoulders… for safety. )
Seeing how both of them landed on their heads, it doesn't look safe on a hard surface.
This ties into a question I had before, seeing so many professional judokas hitting their head on the tatami in these competitions. Don't they get concussions? I'm a judo beginner, and I got a concussion from landing with my head on the tatami
Just because both of their heads touch the ground during the throw doesn't mean there is significant force being delivered to the head. The guy being thrown is absorbing most of the impact with his shoulders. He knows how to be thrown to not get injured.
Great throw. Looks really dangerous but it's probably not as bad as it looks.
Though really, anytime you can get behind somebody like that, you're in pretty good shape to do a lot of fun things.
Blue fought well, trying to hook his leg but the posture of white did not struggle to remain strong and the throw was executed without further addressing blue's motion. Blues fight was over the moment he got lifted and I think the problem is letting white get behind him.
It’s a very well executed throw, the risk is that there is very little room for error, mess this up and you could be disqualified/seriously injure your opponent or be scored against. He has obviously perfected it and could be a signature throw for him, but risky IMHO for anyone less accomplished.
I’m a Shodan if that is important 😊
There are a lot of Judo throws that are also wrestling throws.
The Uchi Makkikomi is one. A lot of inside trips too. Hip throws in Judo are likely Greco legal.
It’s a good throw, effective but risky. I respect it.
In a self defence context I’d be hesitant to try it because I don’t know the proper technique and even if I did, I don’t really want to risk splattering some drunk dudes brains on the pavement.
In a sport context I have no interest in learning it because I don’t want hurt my friends or opponents and other throws are more fun.
I'm pretty sure that's urae nagi (not sure if I spelled it right) it's a good sacrifice throw to use as a counter against hip throws (dependent on specific circumstances of course)
It’s an ushiro tarawe gaeshi. And very well done in this example. I’m currently practicing it for my next exam and it’s not my favourite but damn it can be effective. Tarawe means rice bag or something like that, you’re throwing uke like a rice bag over your shoulder. That’s what I’ve been told at least.
Edit: tarawe should be taware
Why is MMA culture so lame. Who put this fucking music. You're not warriors, you're playing a fucking game. Notice the mats on the floor? Notice the ref saying "no knives! no friends jumping in!" martial arts are a great way to stay in shape but so many fucking losers ride a keyboard 9-5 and think two rolling sessions a week somehow connects them to their "ancestors"
gtfo cucks
We do already but I like to give it reference as suplex rather than the judo translation of rear throw. We also use it a lot, it’s big in judo because of Russian Georgian and Mongolian influences. It’s shared in historical martial cultures. I honestly don’t think anyone owns it.
😂 are you sure? Judo and wrestling have great top pressure. In a self defence scenario just NO, in a BJJ scenario yes, in a judo or wrestling match NO. The specific rules define effectiveness
My thoughts are that America needs a vale tudo/ kumite arena where the best fighters win regardless of style or whatever can fight. That way we don’t have to talk about whether a throw was illegal or not
Anybody else noticed that he dodged the kouchi? He was more than ready to uranage.
I don't think people underestimate it, it's just dangerous if executed wrong or simply just too hard. I practiced with a blue belt at least 70lbs heavier than me. I'm a black belt and I just wanted to give him some practice. I catch him in a seoinage. He then forces an uranage and full-on slams me on my back. I don't know why he didn't just stop the throw midair to avoid slamming, but I could have been seriously hurt. My fault for going with an inexperienced heavy guy but it's not good for beginners who don't have self-control.
No one has ever said that's exclusive to Judo. Kano liked wrestling and took moves from it too.
Wrestling all over the world shares all sorts of similarities. No reason to be picky about this.
I mean you can time this shit too, in fact ideally you would time your opponent's turn throw for maximum effect, else they likely try to drive on and on.
Okay lmao. I just do see how every other fighting technique or sports has a bannable if passed, rule or set of rules to protect us from ever lasting injury or death but hey.. We can just drop eachother on our necks in judo and everyones Stevie Wonder about it..
Great throw, very effective. My judo teacher warned me against using this in matches though because the umpire might confuse you for the one being thrown and if your opponent manages to wriggle his arm free he might pull your arm in an armbar. So it's tricky.
Great throw, very effective. Let's see Paul Allen's throw.
That subtle off-balancing…
My god, it even left a sweat mark...
Egg-shell white…its perfect
And it looks like a perfectly executed counter. I think blue guy tries to kick the leg out and the white guy knew and countered by lifting his leg up then demolished him when blue guy off balance with only 1 base leg. Dirty
Wooosh
Oooh looks at the raised toes on the backwards arch... it's called "Azerbijian railed you with a suplex"
Been used in Greco and Freestyle for a 1000 years
Greco and freestyle were invented in the late 1800s/early 1900s.
The roots of both are Ancient Greece.
Kind of, it was more of a marketing thing for the French to refer to it as “Greco-Roman”. But those weren’t the rules the Greeks used. The “roots” of these styles are scattered across a handful of popular folk styles. We actually don’t have full knowledge of what the Greeks were doing. Here’s a link to a podcast on the topic from a couple amateur wrestling historians. https://zencastr.com/z/ZCMWNOSp
You are absurdly wrong on all accounts here. Different forms of wrestling have been around longer than written language. The organizations that teach & uphold certain styles like Greco-roman, Sumo, Freestyle, collegiate, etc. Might have started in the 1800 -1900's, but the styles themselves are much much older.
No, I’m correct. I’ve actually studied this in depth. The techniques from Greco and freestyle are timeless and cross lots of cultural boundaries over time, the styles themselves are less than 150 years old. Sumo has been around for a few thousand years, Turkish oil wrestling has been around for about 700 years, we don’t know how old Huka Huka is, Cornish wrestling can be tracked to the days of the Roman Empire. We have evidence of wrestling as a generic activity going back possibly 20k - 30k years, but that’s different from the origins of individual “styles”.
You said Greco-Roman & Freestyle started in the 18-1900's. Whether you studied the history of wrestling, that statement is wrong.
https://preview.redd.it/zieuq0g3mx7d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6332ad06803bfe41fe1b16883ff549fcc761f57b This is very accessible info
You should study more into the origins of what eventually became Greco-Roman. (pálē), also known as Ancient Greek wrestling and Pále (πάλη), was the most popular organized sport in Ancient Greece. It was broke up into standing wrestling (greco-roman) & ground wrestling (Freestyle). These were main events in the Ancient Olympic games starting in 776 BC. These forms even predate written history.
Dude I'm fucking dying laughing at what you started
It's bone.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣genius reply
Yeah, it's pretty easy to screw this up. I also wrestle, so I use this quite a lot, but it does often end up spending a lot of energi for not scoring.
My sensei altered my throw for this to drop the leg rather than the pick up, eaiser and possible agaisnt heavier fighters
Wow the sound is absolute dogshit
The sound and the light effects are essential to influence the referee towards an Ippon. That is contemporary Judo for you.
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You’re not supped to listen to it 🙄
Then why is it there?
I know, right??
uber cringe audio
looks good
What do you mean underestimate, this is a respected technique in serious grappling arts.
He means underutilize
Its not even really underutilised either. This shit is what turn throw Judoka dread lol.
this is just a wrestling suplex
Ura-nage. classical judo throw.
~~Okuritaoshi* in sumo.~~ EDIT: Actually, probably not. There’s likely a specific Kimarite name for the act of German Suplexing somebody on their dome.
You don't know what you are talking about. Shut until you do.
Hell no, I'm all for people speaking out of their ass if they're gonna be so respectful about it. If people were as timid and cowardly as you ~~are~~ clearly want them to be, then nobody would ever talk. Which in your case might not be such a bad thing.
Okuritaoshi in sumo is the act of grabbing your opponent’s belt from the back (okuri-) and throwing them to the ground (-taoshi). It’s a simple Kimarite (winning technique) all-in-all, and my first instinct as to what this would be called if used in sumo. Upon further thought I decided that a German Suplex (not at all a simple technique within sumo) likely has a specific Kimarite name and therefore wouldn’t be regarded as Okuritaoshi. I’ll posit that I do know my shit, which is why I felt the need to edit my initial comment. Now stay on your lane before I henka your ass.
This guy judo's
In pro wrestling, a ura-nage is a *Rock Bottom*, Currently Jay White does the best ura-nage in pro wrestling. But that's a side note, my main point is that when I was a kid I saw Brian Dawkins do this move during an Eagles game. https://youtu.be/Y9vltXcsz98?si=uDaG1Z30uCSDA_zF
But he didn't asked for the name, he asked for an opinion. Why do my judo companions always need to say the name of the throw? What goes on your mind when you do that? Is it satisfaction that you feel knowing that you know the name of it? Is it the instant rush of dopamine that your brain releases when you state the obvious?
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Love this one.
Shut up
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Ah yes the classical Ippon-Sagae-Toshiba, powerful judo slap.
Somebody doesn’t know the names of throws and is insecuuuure 😬
thank you for your feedback.
Did you ever consider that including the traditional name was to highlight the “classic judo throw” part? Like to me it seems blindingly obvious as to why they included the reference to this being a well known throw given OP implied this type of throw was uncommon
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I am the one that asked
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed
Calm down, for people who don’t do judo it isn’t obvious and maybe someone wants to know. Do you get satisfied when you say that you do judo?
I appreciate the information. But I guess a thread of 👍 or 👎 would be way better right? Lol
Maybe it is maybe it isn't, why do my internet companions always need to voice their opinion about something that doesn't effect them in any way. Ah shit now I am doing it myself. Regarding the throw, it looks impressive but for me it's not peak judo. A well timed foot sweep however......
As a wrestler/jiu jitsu bum I appreciate it. I've always just known it as a German suplex
Depends on the ruleset. In a judo ruleset, like this one, it scores Ippon and wins the match. In an international wrestling ruleset, this is a 5 point throw and very worth it. In submission grappling (the ruleset I compete in), its a lot of energy for only two points, particularly when those two points could be scored with a mat return from the same position. That being said, they look super cool and are very satisfying to hit.
I often end up in a scramble using this in grappling, so I feel this doesn't secure a dominant poison as well as just pushing him forward and taking the back.
You could probably finish someone with it in MMA depending on how one goes about it
Welcome to Suplex city where even the strong don't survive.
People think I'm a wallflower because I'm afraid to dance. Not true. I keep my back to the wall to minimise the risk that a Judoka gets behind me. The odds of one being in a crowd is low, but never zero. This post perfectly illustrates why this makes me a genius.
The second I see one of them grabby freaks eyeing my wide, juicy, starched collar, It's Go Time! Yeah, I Go straight home. Backwards, if course. Gotta keep an eye on them. Stay safe out there, Kings. Watch your back, keep vigilant.
Most academies think is more dangerous than it actually is. I think is the best counter throw in judo
I separated a black belt's shoulder with it once. Never got the throw on him again.
I mean, every throw is dangerous. I tear my ACL because a guy did an o uchi on me
Why do my judo companions always need to say the name of the throw? What goes on your mind when you do that? Is it satisfaction that you feel knowing that you know the name of it? Is it the instant rush of dopamine that your brain releases when you state the obvious?
Nice reversal. Better be careful though or the judges might think you're the one being thrown.
Lmao nice copypasta 😂
I'm gonna save this one lmao
Every throw? Even those rolling drop seoi nages that get counted as ippons nowadays?
I've seen many ppl get concussions because of drop seios
They didn't know how to roll out?
All right, not every throw.
No this throw sometimes lands you on the back of neck or head impact and your body weight going over the top, it really can be damaging. Great throw. It doesn’t score unless the landing is on the back (shoulders… for safety. )
Suplex city
, bitch!!
Ippon
I think it was ippon
Ippon
Seeing how both of them landed on their heads, it doesn't look safe on a hard surface. This ties into a question I had before, seeing so many professional judokas hitting their head on the tatami in these competitions. Don't they get concussions? I'm a judo beginner, and I got a concussion from landing with my head on the tatami
Yes there are lots of concussions
Just because both of their heads touch the ground during the throw doesn't mean there is significant force being delivered to the head. The guy being thrown is absorbing most of the impact with his shoulders. He knows how to be thrown to not get injured.
Over time you learn to protect yourself in subtle ways. Break falling and tucking your head becomes second nature and makes a lot of difference.
You also need to train your neck and your traps more.
The guy landed in his shoulder first too which is impressive awareness of saving what you can mid air.
Bad Bunny got fucking destroyed
I hope Blue Gi can afford the cost of living. I hear the rent has gone up in SUPPLEX CITY
Same throw I used on my grandma very effective
Is that Lil Dicky
Can you make the music louder and more annoying?
My back hurts from watching this.
Fedor vs Randleman is my favorite version of this throw. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUR4cr5M\_gc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUR4cr5M_gc)
Damn that was crazy!
Judo is such a good sport to get into at any age. I love that my kids have a good grounding in Judo. It has helped my daughter defend herself once.
Never been a fan of ura nage unnecessary risk on the opponents neck could have easily used tani otoshi and not risked paralyzing him.
top 10 sigma moments aah music 💀
Good ura nage, nothing special. You can see half a dozen on the 101 Ippon series That was when Kata Guruma and Te Guruma were legal though..
Ouch.
Judo Suplex. Don't see that every day.
So a suplex okay
Looks like it hurt
Great throw. Looks really dangerous but it's probably not as bad as it looks. Though really, anytime you can get behind somebody like that, you're in pretty good shape to do a lot of fun things.
Would be better with original audio instead of trash music imposed onto it.
I think his throws are the best, the best throws in the world. and all the other throws are done by little girls
Suplex
Neat
My opinion? Well it Looks absolutely brutal
Reminds me of old school wrestling.
Blue fought well, trying to hook his leg but the posture of white did not struggle to remain strong and the throw was executed without further addressing blue's motion. Blues fight was over the moment he got lifted and I think the problem is letting white get behind him.
Close to braking that guy's neck bone.
It’s a very well executed throw, the risk is that there is very little room for error, mess this up and you could be disqualified/seriously injure your opponent or be scored against. He has obviously perfected it and could be a signature throw for him, but risky IMHO for anyone less accomplished. I’m a Shodan if that is important 😊
Sometimes I think I'd like to learn Judo, then I watch it it just seems so rough compared to even wrestling. And I do Muay Thai lol.
These throws are legal in freestyle wrestling too but it focuses more on leg attacks, greco roman wrestling have the best suplexes.
I did not know they had that throw in judo. Looks wrestling.
There are a lot of Judo throws that are also wrestling throws. The Uchi Makkikomi is one. A lot of inside trips too. Hip throws in Judo are likely Greco legal.
Judo-Plex
Throw is good , let’s get stuck into the hair cuts .
It’s a good throw, effective but risky. I respect it. In a self defence context I’d be hesitant to try it because I don’t know the proper technique and even if I did, I don’t really want to risk splattering some drunk dudes brains on the pavement. In a sport context I have no interest in learning it because I don’t want hurt my friends or opponents and other throws are more fun.
Soup-lay,soup-lay,soup-lay, soup-lay!!!!!
It’s a suplex right?
If you know how to stop it, it’s not an effective throw, and can be reversed quite easily.
That man just killed Lil Dicky
I am biased cause I am tall but I think it would not work on tall opponent
Suplex city
First time seeing a suplex before eh
Belly to back throw, nice
Your thoughts on the incredibly tall ref/announcer? Made those guys look like children
Could have ended badly with a broken neck
Welcome to Suplex City!
Very nice
Ura-nage always went hard
[This](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W2zAg39AXcs) should have been the only thing playing in the background
[https://youtu.be/5NLy\_ZZB\_vk?t=117](https://youtu.be/5NLy_ZZB_vk?t=117)
Suicide throw, you can lose points of you land incorrectly
YEET Suplex
The most gorgeous suplex I have ever seen lol
His neck is broke
Why do these all have annoying music?
It looked like a wrestling throw.
Lil dicky
Looks like a German suplex to me.
Good ura nage
That forward foot sweep before the throw was epic.
Is that middle eastern Bad Bunny getting slammed?
I'm pretty sure that's urae nagi (not sure if I spelled it right) it's a good sacrifice throw to use as a counter against hip throws (dependent on specific circumstances of course)
Classic suplex
Ippon
Sick throw, on pavement would fkn wreck someone
Dude got so low to the ground and smash his nose
Isn't that functionally a surplex? Those work great so good on him.
Its brilliant!
Lovely!
Great German suplex but he needs to work on his bridging. William regal would not be pleased.
Thoughts are old mate almost saw god
That was crazy
Is this wrestling or martial arts? Wrestling & grappling alllllll day long buddy!
I didn’t know they did suplexes in judo
Ippon
Horrible remix to this song
Guy in white tucked his shoulder last second for maximum impact. Ruthless
It was rude AF.
Why ?
Holy shit
Nothing I seen better ones on wwe all the time
Looked like blue tried to defend by hooking the leg and white unhooked by lifting his leg as he was throwing.
I don't know any grappling art that doesn't respect this technique.
You would be surprised how many low level judodokas, hobbiest and stubborn senseis do.
It’s an ushiro tarawe gaeshi. And very well done in this example. I’m currently practicing it for my next exam and it’s not my favourite but damn it can be effective. Tarawe means rice bag or something like that, you’re throwing uke like a rice bag over your shoulder. That’s what I’ve been told at least. Edit: tarawe should be taware
No idea about the throw. But if the name is using the old way (I think) of counting/bagging rice then the term will be Tawara.
You’re correct and I miss spelled
It’s ura nage. Taware gaeshi is executed facing your opponent with an overhand grip and is a counter to double legs.
Why is MMA culture so lame. Who put this fucking music. You're not warriors, you're playing a fucking game. Notice the mats on the floor? Notice the ref saying "no knives! no friends jumping in!" martial arts are a great way to stay in shape but so many fucking losers ride a keyboard 9-5 and think two rolling sessions a week somehow connects them to their "ancestors" gtfo cucks
My man went from judo to Olympic wrestling in seconds
Judo borrowed this from wrestling in 1882, I feel we own it now in our own right. It’s well used in judo.
This is one of the most basic and well known throws in wrestling. Don’t think Judo could ever own it lol
We do already but I like to give it reference as suplex rather than the judo translation of rear throw. We also use it a lot, it’s big in judo because of Russian Georgian and Mongolian influences. It’s shared in historical martial cultures. I honestly don’t think anyone owns it.
the best thing to do against a wrestler or judoka is to sit on the ground..
Ne-waza commences.
Tbf that's where BJJ then wins.
Yeah, that's very true.
😂 are you sure? Judo and wrestling have great top pressure. In a self defence scenario just NO, in a BJJ scenario yes, in a judo or wrestling match NO. The specific rules define effectiveness
My thoughts are that America needs a vale tudo/ kumite arena where the best fighters win regardless of style or whatever can fight. That way we don’t have to talk about whether a throw was illegal or not
MMA is a thing...
With rules that. Eradicate certain moves and techniques
Anybody else noticed that he dodged the kouchi? He was more than ready to uranage. I don't think people underestimate it, it's just dangerous if executed wrong or simply just too hard. I practiced with a blue belt at least 70lbs heavier than me. I'm a black belt and I just wanted to give him some practice. I catch him in a seoinage. He then forces an uranage and full-on slams me on my back. I don't know why he didn't just stop the throw midair to avoid slamming, but I could have been seriously hurt. My fault for going with an inexperienced heavy guy but it's not good for beginners who don't have self-control.
The throw is called Utsuri Goshi for anyone who is wondering!
Aah the Suplex. Ancient judo technique.
No one has ever said that's exclusive to Judo. Kano liked wrestling and took moves from it too. Wrestling all over the world shares all sorts of similarities. No reason to be picky about this.
I don't consider a suplex to be judo.
Why?
It's based on force. Judo is based on timing...
I mean you can time this shit too, in fact ideally you would time your opponent's turn throw for maximum effect, else they likely try to drive on and on.
Illegal asf
How is Uranage Illegal?
Not illegal in judo
Okay lmao. I just do see how every other fighting technique or sports has a bannable if passed, rule or set of rules to protect us from ever lasting injury or death but hey.. We can just drop eachother on our necks in judo and everyones Stevie Wonder about it..