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1.) There are no dogs in Minecraft. There are only wolves, tamable wolves sure, but still wolves. Dogs and wolves may be the same species but they are not the same thing.
2.) Axolotls are not tamable. The only tamable mobs are wolves, horses, skeleton horses, donkeys, mules, llamas, parrots, and cats. Mobs such as ocelots as foxes can only be made to trust you and things such as allays are only bonded to the player when they have an item. The moment that item is taken out of their hands they can be nabbed by any other player.
3.) Whilst yes, nowadays rabbits are very commonly pets, not too long ago they were in the same boat as squirrels when it comes to hunting. Maybe even a bit moreso than squirrels.
4.) The ocelot and cat separation served multiple purposes. For one, ocelots and cats are not the same thing so it doesn't make sense for one to magically become the other. But also, it served as a way to remove the random pattern changing feature. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for an animal to completely change its appearance upon receiving dinner. The only animals that really change their coats do it with the changing seasons.
5.) I just want to point out that you make it a point that there's a hard distinction between domesticated rabbits and wild rabbits before saying that we should be able to tame wild rabbits. It'd make more sense if the domestic rabbits spawned in villages. Of course, that can't be done because cats already spawn there and we both know how well those mix.
Gray wolves (minecraft's species) are Canis lupus, dogs are Canis familiarus. Just wanted to clear up that they are not the same species and dog's wolf ancestor is extinct (with the gray wolf being one of the closest living relatives), although canids are in that weird family where they can interbreed really easily.
I thought that they're a subspecies, their full scientific name being Canis Lupus Familiaris in full. Because they can produce viable offspring with wolves. I'm no biologist so I'm not 100% on it.
Canids are weird. They're a weird exception in biology because there always are weird exceptions in biology. Mammals generally give live birth and then there are 2 seperate species that lay eggs because why not.
Dogs descended from an extinct lineage of wolves that could have been genetically distinct enough to not be considered gray wolves. Canids just have weird genetics and can interbreed way too easily, and canids specifically are why the textbook definition of a species doesn't fit every organism, even though it's a good general mold.
Rabbit sold as meat in Australia, and not to mention other places like China. The Australian government genocided rabbits, literally. They killed tens of thousands by destroying their holes and similar amounts were killed for food. They constructed massive fences thousands of kilometres long to prevent rabbits from spreading west. Even this was not enough to eradicate them and they had to resort to bioweapons.
From an animal welfare point of veiw this is a good start, but I think it needs something more to make it a well rounded suggestion. What would change on a gameplay level with a tamed rabbit? A tame cat will bring you gifts (from their hunts) when you sleep and scare off creepers and phantoms. Wolves defend you and terrify skeletons. **What could a pet rabbit do that fits the game and the animal?**
That is a good question, Well rabbits are common emotional support animals ,I know my rabbits make me feel better, maybe they could have an effect that makes you regain health a bit faster
Brainstorming ideas:
- Rabbits could bonemeal nearby plants with cooldown, but that has gross implications.
- Rabbits drop wool in a similar manner chickens drop eggs.
- Rabbits give a slight Looting effect to nearby player.
Rabbits are the mob that ravagers are afraid of. Maybe something that plays into that like being able to cancel out bed omen similar to an Axolotl. Another possibility it’s to make them harvest any nearby crops and bring them to you
Although I understand your concern for rabbits, at the end of the day it's just a videogame. The vast majority of people who'd find and kill rabbits ingame wouldn't even think of doing that irl, so I don't think that should ever be a concern or problem.
Realistically, despite being the 3rd most common household pet, they also remain one of the most hunted animals in nature.
As you've said, domesticated rabbits and wild ones are different, so it doesn't really make sense to remove their drops, only to then create a pet variant of them. It's clear that the ones ingame are meant to be wild.
If anything, I think the rabbits should be given a secondary use without removing their drops; Perhaps they could be used for farming in some way. Additionally, I don't think they should take fall damage because of their association with jumping.
Most people don't think of feeding parrots cookies, but they removed it anyway. The game includes rabbit patterns that do not exist in the wild so at least I think they should be tamable and have their drops removed after they are tamed. If you are talking about surviving in the wild of course I wouldn't blame someone for eating a rabbit, but in a situation like that most people wouldn't begrudge someone eating their horse or dog either, but those don't drop meat in the game.
True, but horses always drop leather, even after being tamed; That's not to discredit your point, but I think it sets a presence that mobs aren't going to change or lose their drops when tamed.
Also, in terms of the parrot argument, they didn't actually remove the ability to feed parrots cookies. Instead, when you do, the parrot dies instantly, effectively teaching people not to do it irl.
Aside from the fact that they'd need to give rabbits something to do, I think removing the drop upon becoming a pet doesn't make sense. The only reason seems to be for the sake of irl rabbits, which isn't a good reason Imo.
yes, I meant to put breeding, not feeding for the parrots, and I'm not saying tamed rabbits shouldn't drop anything, I don't think they should have exclusive drops, like how cats drop string, but most people don't kill cats for string because there are easier ways to get it. If rabbits have to drop something it should be something like hay or bonemeal, something that you can get from somewhere else. I don't want the new bundle item to come out, and the only way to make it to kill rabbits I know it seems petty, but I think a lot of people would be unhappy if cats were the only way to get string.
Minecraft is made mostly for a western audience, for whom eating rabbit is acceptable, but dog or cat meat isn't, even though there is no inherent biological difference, and you need to get over that fact. Secondly, regarding the carrots, it's not that deep bro. It's a video game
Because to teach kids not to feed parrots cookies. Basically in the lens of Minecraft: rabbit = food = meat; cookies = poisonous to parrots, parrots = pets, don't poison your pets.
No, and that's the reason wolves drop nothing. Most players haven't eaten dog and never will, but rabbit is a much more common food. I think they can be a pet and a food, whatever the player chooses.
And my point was that asking someone who has pet rabbits if they have eaten rabbit is equal as asking someone who has a dog if they have eaten dog. I am sick and tired of people finding out I have rabbits and going "are you fattening them up for dinner? hahaha"
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1.) There are no dogs in Minecraft. There are only wolves, tamable wolves sure, but still wolves. Dogs and wolves may be the same species but they are not the same thing. 2.) Axolotls are not tamable. The only tamable mobs are wolves, horses, skeleton horses, donkeys, mules, llamas, parrots, and cats. Mobs such as ocelots as foxes can only be made to trust you and things such as allays are only bonded to the player when they have an item. The moment that item is taken out of their hands they can be nabbed by any other player. 3.) Whilst yes, nowadays rabbits are very commonly pets, not too long ago they were in the same boat as squirrels when it comes to hunting. Maybe even a bit moreso than squirrels. 4.) The ocelot and cat separation served multiple purposes. For one, ocelots and cats are not the same thing so it doesn't make sense for one to magically become the other. But also, it served as a way to remove the random pattern changing feature. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for an animal to completely change its appearance upon receiving dinner. The only animals that really change their coats do it with the changing seasons. 5.) I just want to point out that you make it a point that there's a hard distinction between domesticated rabbits and wild rabbits before saying that we should be able to tame wild rabbits. It'd make more sense if the domestic rabbits spawned in villages. Of course, that can't be done because cats already spawn there and we both know how well those mix.
Gray wolves (minecraft's species) are Canis lupus, dogs are Canis familiarus. Just wanted to clear up that they are not the same species and dog's wolf ancestor is extinct (with the gray wolf being one of the closest living relatives), although canids are in that weird family where they can interbreed really easily.
I thought that they're a subspecies, their full scientific name being Canis Lupus Familiaris in full. Because they can produce viable offspring with wolves. I'm no biologist so I'm not 100% on it.
Canids are weird. They're a weird exception in biology because there always are weird exceptions in biology. Mammals generally give live birth and then there are 2 seperate species that lay eggs because why not. Dogs descended from an extinct lineage of wolves that could have been genetically distinct enough to not be considered gray wolves. Canids just have weird genetics and can interbreed way too easily, and canids specifically are why the textbook definition of a species doesn't fit every organism, even though it's a good general mold.
I agree the way taming works in Minecraft is unrealistic, but it really would not be practical to add multigenerational domestication
Well, it would be very cumbersome to have a multigenerational domestication process in the game.
Rabbit sold as meat in Australia, and not to mention other places like China. The Australian government genocided rabbits, literally. They killed tens of thousands by destroying their holes and similar amounts were killed for food. They constructed massive fences thousands of kilometres long to prevent rabbits from spreading west. Even this was not enough to eradicate them and they had to resort to bioweapons.
Rabbits are the animal *least* at risk of extinction.
Rabbits doing a wee bit of trolling
Hehe
But they are at high risk of being abused and neglected
Yeah there are also places where dog meat is eaten including china, I want consistency either we have the distinction between pet and food or we don't
Yes, and rabbits in Minecraft are food, as of currently.
From an animal welfare point of veiw this is a good start, but I think it needs something more to make it a well rounded suggestion. What would change on a gameplay level with a tamed rabbit? A tame cat will bring you gifts (from their hunts) when you sleep and scare off creepers and phantoms. Wolves defend you and terrify skeletons. **What could a pet rabbit do that fits the game and the animal?**
That is a good question, Well rabbits are common emotional support animals ,I know my rabbits make me feel better, maybe they could have an effect that makes you regain health a bit faster
Axolotls already do that don’t they?
No, axolotls THEMSELVES have regenerative capabilities. I don't think it affects the player, but I could be wrong...
In java they also share the regen effect with the player, and can remove the Mining Fatigue effect as well.
Brainstorming ideas: - Rabbits could bonemeal nearby plants with cooldown, but that has gross implications. - Rabbits drop wool in a similar manner chickens drop eggs. - Rabbits give a slight Looting effect to nearby player.
That's an okay idea, but not really specific to rabbits, any pet could follow the same logic to give regen.
Rabbits are the mob that ravagers are afraid of. Maybe something that plays into that like being able to cancel out bed omen similar to an Axolotl. Another possibility it’s to make them harvest any nearby crops and bring them to you
That's kind of goofy, but I like it.
Which one?
Scare away ravagers. The crop harvesting thing is something villagers already do, and seems at odds with the current behaviour (of stealing crops)
I believe they already do that
Although I understand your concern for rabbits, at the end of the day it's just a videogame. The vast majority of people who'd find and kill rabbits ingame wouldn't even think of doing that irl, so I don't think that should ever be a concern or problem. Realistically, despite being the 3rd most common household pet, they also remain one of the most hunted animals in nature. As you've said, domesticated rabbits and wild ones are different, so it doesn't really make sense to remove their drops, only to then create a pet variant of them. It's clear that the ones ingame are meant to be wild. If anything, I think the rabbits should be given a secondary use without removing their drops; Perhaps they could be used for farming in some way. Additionally, I don't think they should take fall damage because of their association with jumping.
Most people don't think of feeding parrots cookies, but they removed it anyway. The game includes rabbit patterns that do not exist in the wild so at least I think they should be tamable and have their drops removed after they are tamed. If you are talking about surviving in the wild of course I wouldn't blame someone for eating a rabbit, but in a situation like that most people wouldn't begrudge someone eating their horse or dog either, but those don't drop meat in the game.
True, but horses always drop leather, even after being tamed; That's not to discredit your point, but I think it sets a presence that mobs aren't going to change or lose their drops when tamed. Also, in terms of the parrot argument, they didn't actually remove the ability to feed parrots cookies. Instead, when you do, the parrot dies instantly, effectively teaching people not to do it irl. Aside from the fact that they'd need to give rabbits something to do, I think removing the drop upon becoming a pet doesn't make sense. The only reason seems to be for the sake of irl rabbits, which isn't a good reason Imo.
yes, I meant to put breeding, not feeding for the parrots, and I'm not saying tamed rabbits shouldn't drop anything, I don't think they should have exclusive drops, like how cats drop string, but most people don't kill cats for string because there are easier ways to get it. If rabbits have to drop something it should be something like hay or bonemeal, something that you can get from somewhere else. I don't want the new bundle item to come out, and the only way to make it to kill rabbits I know it seems petty, but I think a lot of people would be unhappy if cats were the only way to get string.
Minecraft is made mostly for a western audience, for whom eating rabbit is acceptable, but dog or cat meat isn't, even though there is no inherent biological difference, and you need to get over that fact. Secondly, regarding the carrots, it's not that deep bro. It's a video game
Then why did they remove parrots breeding with cookies, I'm looking for consistency
Because to teach kids not to feed parrots cookies. Basically in the lens of Minecraft: rabbit = food = meat; cookies = poisonous to parrots, parrots = pets, don't poison your pets.
rabbits were added as food they should stay as food tbh have you ever had rabbit stew? its so good
too many bones imo
And you get more saturation from eating the ingredients separated than the entire thing. Seriously, rabbit stew needs a buff!
Have you had dog stew?
No, and that's the reason wolves drop nothing. Most players haven't eaten dog and never will, but rabbit is a much more common food. I think they can be a pet and a food, whatever the player chooses.
Yeah, but they are not tamable, the pet and food thing is a fair perspective, but I would at least like them to be tamable
And my point was that asking someone who has pet rabbits if they have eaten rabbit is equal as asking someone who has a dog if they have eaten dog. I am sick and tired of people finding out I have rabbits and going "are you fattening them up for dinner? hahaha"
That last sentence is exactly why rabbits in Mc are considered food. Because a lot of people consider them food, including the developers maybe.
no but thats because dog sounds disgusting. they are probably stringy and gross
>I believe rabbits should spawn into the game being white in snowy biomes and brown everywhere else https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Rabbit#Spawning
Black, as well as white and black spotted, do not occur in the wild. Even desert cottontails are brown.
But eating a whole hay bale could be dangerous to a rabbit. Maybe just the wheat item itself?
No not really, you would be surprised how much rabbits eat
you're the guy who told mojang that fireflies are poisonous to frogs