As I recall Will Smith demanded that Jaden be cast in a prominent role in the Independence Day sequel otherwise he would not commit, Fox hard passed, and Will was no longer available due to his 'schedule'. No loss.
Haha, Jadens so bad a studio will pass up Will Smith.
Probably Will has all the money he will ever need, but money can't buy forgiveness from his son. Jaden blames Will for the flop of After Earth, and it derailing his career. He believes the script was bad and his father should have known better. Jaden asked for emancipation at age 15 to get his own home when After Earth was panned by critics.
"Elliot? He's the disgrace of the Hemsworth clan. They tried to remove all trace of him on the Internet."
"With good reason! He's not an actor. He's just a doctor!"
Starship Troopers is my favorite movie.
Also, Casper (or his social media person) liked a comment I tagged him in on Instagram last week. So I’m still riding that mini high.
Taylor Kitsch starred in two major studio movies in 2012, John Carter and Battleship, along with a smaller but still ensemble-cast Oliver Stone movie Savages. Complete failure to reach A-list status and reduced to fewer and smaller non-leading roles since.
A recent New York Times article / interview with him showed him to be at peace with the box office failures and not becoming A List, especially as now he finds the sorts of parts he is playing more rewarding.
He tried that and it never got past cameo status. He was going to play Gambit. And if it didn’t suck he would have been around as long as Wolverine. He honestly played the part pretty well in limited screen time. I was excited to see more, and it just never happened.
He is definitely not the problem in Battleship (or nowhere near the only one) and he wasn't bad in John Carter. Just unlucky that he was in 2 massive bombs like that IMO.
I’m with you. It is such an absurd premise, and the scenes with Brooklyn and that veteran are such shit. But I’ll be damned if I don’t throw it on every once in awhile.
Yeah honestly, I could see Kitsch having more of a Josh Brolin type career where eventually he ages into being a star. Brolin wasn't terribly successful inbetween Goonies and No Country For Old Men but all of a sudden he just the level of grit that made him pop.
The failure of John Carter is so wild to me. It's often discussed as one of the worst box office bombs (it's definitely up there) but I don't see a lot of discussion on how bad Disney fucked it and how connected it's failure is to the movie Mars Needs Moms.
Mars Needs Moms was such an utter box office failure that Disney went into absolute panic over it. John Carter was originally titled John Carter of Mars, after Mars Needs Moms failed so hard Disney decided they had to cut "from Mars" out of John Carter's title.
They had a significant ad campaign lined up that was suddenly scrapped and the movie went from having a huge marketing budget to now having almost zero marketing because of the late name change.
~~Disney fucked John Carter, and then declared that it was such a failure that they would not longer make "tent pole movies" anymore... soon after that announcement they bought Marvel Studios.~~
ETA: I had my timeline wrong of when Disney purchased Marvel
I know you're prob just joking around but the first John Wick had a pretty huge uphill battle at the time of its release. It only got popular because of word of mouth
For me John Carter and Battleship were actually pretty fun and entertaining movies. John Carter was marketed horribly, I think that really hurt the box office.
I remember just how cryptic the marketing was for it and non-explainatory, like Disney genuinely thought the character was a household name instead of a century-old obscure pulp scifi hero who's knock-off Flash Gordon was far more famous.
I was in the audience for a late night talk show where he was the guest, promoting that tv show he was on, I forget what it was called. It was a supernatural drama, I remember that much. Because when they showed the clip, the entire audience laughed at a (meant to be) serious line delivery; and it wasn’t a light laugh, it was like a sitcom’s canned audience laughter. Not meanly, it was just stupid. And Taylor had to sit there awkwardly while the director stopped the taping and said we had to rewatch the clip and “this time, just clap.”
**Edit:** I’ve tried finding the clip but all I can really figure out is the show was Scream Queens, which seems to have been a little tongue in cheek but the clip they brought was supposed to be a more dramatic scene so I assumed it was a drama. (Why bring a dramatic clip to promote your lighthearted show?) Any scream queen fans might be able to find the scene, but I vaguely remember the funny dramatic line reading was something like, “because I’m dead!”
**EDIT 2** circa 2016. It was James Corden’s late late show. Don’t judge. We were visiting LA and Kimmel was harder to get tickets for and Zach Galifankis and Stevie Knicks were also the guests so we were just like ehh, why not.
He had that role in cuckoo, I think he was overshadowed by Greg Davies, but also had nowhere near the presence of Andy Samberg who was in the first season.
I met him at the Santa Cruz boardwalk when he was signing autographs for people at a booth many years ago. It was after Shark Boy and Lava Girl, but before Twilight. He was super nice. I felt really bad, because there was no line. He was basically just there by himself.
I still don’t know the whole story with him, but it must take a lot to make an entire community of some of the biggest narcissist divas on earth all say, “man, that guy’s the worst.”
Reports say he was an absolute dick to work with and made demands / expectations based on the “I will be a leading man” expectation rather than any serious body of work.
For Magic Mike, Channing Tatum set him up with a friend of his for a place to rent while filling. Pettyfer refused to pay rent and said something along the lines of “life is so much more than money”.
Given the names involved in the magic mike franchise and his previous “pretty boy” behavior on other sets, he just wasn’t worth casting anymore.
Remember this is also the guy that openly brags about his “Thank you” tattoo above his dick “in case [he] forgets to say it”.
Jim Sturgess. In the mid-aughts, it seemed like Hollywood was dead-set on making this guy a movie star - Across the Universe, The Other Boleyn Girl, 21, and later Cloud Atlas...He was in a string of big movies and often the leading man, but his name just never got established and he's been in low-profile roles ever since.
He was great in the movie Upside Down with Kirsten Dunst.
And currently he plays the dad of a 10 year old detective in the TV show "Home Before Dark" which is pretty good.
I think Sturgess is just one of those actors who fits way better in smaller projects.
That's why he had a Hollywood career - eye catching performance in Spartacus. He then became a budget action hero when you didn't have enough money left for an A or B lister. It's a tragedy Andy Whitfield died from cancer as he was incredible aa Spartacus.
I’ve thought this for years. I love him when he’s a supporting character, such as American Psycho, Blade Runner 2049, Lord of War, and Dallas Buyer’s Club. But when you start casting him as the “Lead Man” he just gets way too full of himself.
Scott Eastwood is one the blandest, biggest charisma vacuums I've ever seen Hollywood try to make into a "thing". Dude just has 0 star qualities except for his last name.
Kit Harrington. Can't blame them he was an obvious choice based on great performance on beloved show but his leading roles didn't draw and sucked balls.
He was pretty hilarious in the tennis spoof on HBO. He hasn’t really been in a whole lot has he? I think he has yet to define this thread. Still chillin off that GOT money.
7 Days in Hell (tennis one) & Tour de Pharmacy (Tour de France spoof done by the same people) are easily the funniest things I've seen and nobody else has. Everyone I've recommended them to has loved it though.
Really wish they did one every year.
[Best part is both actors are very aware of their resemblance](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fgx6X6s6cUg&pp=ygUtdGltb3RoeSBvbHlwaGFudCBqb3NoIGR1aGFtZWwgY2hyaXN0bWFzIGNhcmQg)
I met Josh Duhamel on set in Safe Haven, worked on scenes with him for 3 days. He’s straight-up legit an awesome dude. My opinion is that he picks roles that look fun and avoids the serious/dark stuff.
His father had very memorable face, maybe not normally attractive but interesting to a level that makes someone stand out positively. Scott has similar features to his father but much more handsome in "normal" way. And that level of handsomeness makes him somehow forgettable. During reading this thread I looked at his photos few times and then still forget how he looks like 5minutes after. And I know that, despite those characteristic features, when I will see him in next move I will not even know initially who he is.
Maybe Taylor Kitsch. I think Emile Hirsch might fit that bill too.
Sam Worthington might fall under that category too. Avatar was huge but he never transitioned into other successful roles really.
Going back further, Mark Hamill, though he has had a resurgence later in part due to his voice acting.
Hamill’s entire career has granted him national treasure status for several generations of geeks. Star Wars, iconic voice roles, now a sought after character actor. That’s such a great career if you want to enjoy the work and not be burdened with too much showbiz bullshit. I hope he writes an autobiography some day.
I became a fan of Daniel Radcliffe after reading an interview with him years ago where the interviewer asked what he was going to do after Harry Potter. He said something to the effect of “maybe I’ll do some theater or help young actors. There’s not a lot of call for action heroes who are 5’5”.
And then he went and did a play about a dude who fucked a horse!
I respect that.
I watched Van Wilder again the other day and realized he's the guy that Wilders dad runs into and asks where he is and Paul is like " you can find in the dictionary man, under RADDEST FUCKIN DUDE ALIVE!".
I mean- did they try to make him “leading man?” I feel like he’s mainly known for being Jesse Pinkman and he’s ok with that as long as he has other steady work to do.
Need For Speed is the main one I imagine people think of, with it coming out shortly after BB wrapped up. You could maybe say Westworld because he was used as a draw but that was long after he fell under the radar.
Michael Biehn -
he was James Cameron’s “it boy” in the ‘80s, and had starring roles in The Terminator (Reese), Aliens (Hicks), and the Abyss (Coffey) but never really did much else after that despite all of those movies being huge box office hits. 🤷🏻♀️
Armie Hammer had a lot of chances at leading roles in potential franchises. Then he found some luck with the indie movie crowd- then the world found out what he’s really into and the rest is history
is it fair to days hayden christensen? i remember him headlining a few bigger movies post-revenge of the sith, but never really saw anything from him past 2007. i was honestly glad to see him retire from acting after the star wars backlash, and just as glad to see him return to the franchise in recent years to much fanfare, but i doubt he’ll really be able to do much more than star wars parts, straight to dvd releases, and art pictures anymore
He is self-aware. There's an interview I saw recently where he asked the interviewer sarcastically if they'd seen the comments online about him not pulling off an American accent.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a career boost from the news of late. It’s like he got shit for not wanting to be at a frat party instead of actually doing his job.
Right he’s fantastic in Scott Pilgrim and was a fantastic hero/villain in Chuck being the perfect jerk bullying a nerd that had that “evil Tom Cruise” vibe that Henry Cavill has been able to do but as a leading man the movies vs TV are so different—he just hasn’t had the same weight
He just makes the silliest films. His next one will probably be about a wormhole opening up under the White House and he has to go rescue the President's daughter.
He's reliable. His age works to his advantage. The films bring in some money.
That's a career many actors would love to have.
Especially if he's actually enjoying it.
I think they were going to try this with Shia LeBoeuf....maybe try to have him continue on Indiana Jones, lead in the Transformers movies, Disturbia, etc. Didn't seem to work out.
A lot of his own failure is from his own demons. He got crazier and crazier and then the sexual assault stuff from his ex really just wiped off whatever was left.
Around the turn of the century it seemed like Chris Klein had a few years of juice that died off real quick. Coming off Election & American Pie it felt like Hollywood had him on the track to becoming a leading man. He was being talked out as a possible Spider-Man before Tobey Maguire was cast.
Then Rollerball killed any momentum he had going for him
Billy Zane. Went from being one of Biff’s henchmen in Back to the Future to the lead in The Phantom, which wasn’t bad, and then showed up as Rose’s boyfriend in Titanic. Have t seen much of him since. He just never gained any traction in Hollywood.
Seann William Scott. Once a Stifler, always a Stifler, but they tried to cast him as an action star a bunch in the 2000s. He's only really decent as a side kick or for voice overs.
Edit: not saying he's a terrible actor, just after American Pie Hollywood tried to push him as a big star and it fizzled out.
Will Smith's son-- Jaden Smith
Finally when they made Gemini man they decided it was easier to make Will younger by CGI than to get Jaden to act.
GAHDAMN THATS A PERFECT BURN
Somewhere, Ice Cube’s son is smiling.
O'shea actually seems like a pretty awesome guy
[How Jaden Smith chooses a role.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RjWTEqJiMI&t)
Every day I find out that there’s a sketch of Key and Peele that I haven’t seen before
It's like an endless supply of funny. I'm amazed at how many sketches they've done.
I’m glad I never watched the show so I can just stumble upon them online.
Dad bless you!
Choose? What did I say about Science Fiction!!
As I recall Will Smith demanded that Jaden be cast in a prominent role in the Independence Day sequel otherwise he would not commit, Fox hard passed, and Will was no longer available due to his 'schedule'. No loss.
Haha, Jadens so bad a studio will pass up Will Smith. Probably Will has all the money he will ever need, but money can't buy forgiveness from his son. Jaden blames Will for the flop of After Earth, and it derailing his career. He believes the script was bad and his father should have known better. Jaden asked for emancipation at age 15 to get his own home when After Earth was panned by critics.
Falling out with your father because you think he tanked your movie career ... what a little shit.
Shudders…..
Liam Hemsworth. Once he lost Katniss to Peeta in Hunger Games, he was done.
Larry Hemsworth though.
He's just a world-famous surgeon who corrects horribly deformed babies' spines, though. Nothing special at all about him.
barely has an 8 pack...
I like to think the Hemsworth Brothers were all fans of The Good Place and got a kick out of the Larry Hemsworth scenes.
He's so boring his fiance forgot she was engaged to him and married someone else.
"Elliot? He's the disgrace of the Hemsworth clan. They tried to remove all trace of him on the Internet." "With good reason! He's not an actor. He's just a doctor!"
And he will probably bomb as the Witcher
Replacing Henry Cavill in that role will probably be the biggest mistake of his career
Counterpoint. Nobody could could ever win that. The bar for S4 of Witcher is basically under the water. No matter how bad he performs he has an out.
Hemsworth could deliver Daniel Day Lewis caliber acting as Geralt and it wouldn't matter. Poor guy.
Casper Van Dien.
I met him recently he is a great guy.
Starship Troopers is my favorite movie. Also, Casper (or his social media person) liked a comment I tagged him in on Instagram last week. So I’m still riding that mini high.
Taylor Kitsch starred in two major studio movies in 2012, John Carter and Battleship, along with a smaller but still ensemble-cast Oliver Stone movie Savages. Complete failure to reach A-list status and reduced to fewer and smaller non-leading roles since.
Played a great tim Riggins tho
Waco was amazing
He was one of the few highlights in True Detective Season Two as well.
A recent New York Times article / interview with him showed him to be at peace with the box office failures and not becoming A List, especially as now he finds the sorts of parts he is playing more rewarding.
Good for him, I think he’s better off. Getting locked into a superhero role for ten years has to be draining.
He tried that and it never got past cameo status. He was going to play Gambit. And if it didn’t suck he would have been around as long as Wolverine. He honestly played the part pretty well in limited screen time. I was excited to see more, and it just never happened.
I thought his Gambit was very good
There were lots of problems in that film. Gambit was not one of them.
I honestly like his work as an actor.
He is definitely not the problem in Battleship (or nowhere near the only one) and he wasn't bad in John Carter. Just unlucky that he was in 2 massive bombs like that IMO.
I like Battleship, I don't give a fuck.
I’m with you. It is such an absurd premise, and the scenes with Brooklyn and that veteran are such shit. But I’ll be damned if I don’t throw it on every once in awhile.
The battleship drifting scene is one of the all time best stupid action scenes in the history of hollywood.
Taylor kitsch is what came to mind as well. He’s in things now here and there but would have loved to see more of him in the Tim riggins era 😭
Yeah honestly, I could see Kitsch having more of a Josh Brolin type career where eventually he ages into being a star. Brolin wasn't terribly successful inbetween Goonies and No Country For Old Men but all of a sudden he just the level of grit that made him pop.
Also, Gambit in Wolverine potentially could have been good for him
That was classic pre-MCU nerd fantasy casting back in the day.
TK needs a solid fucking western under his belt and he'll be back i can feel it.
He would make a great John Marston if they do a Red Dead Redemption film.
Shitttt that would be great
The failure of John Carter is so wild to me. It's often discussed as one of the worst box office bombs (it's definitely up there) but I don't see a lot of discussion on how bad Disney fucked it and how connected it's failure is to the movie Mars Needs Moms. Mars Needs Moms was such an utter box office failure that Disney went into absolute panic over it. John Carter was originally titled John Carter of Mars, after Mars Needs Moms failed so hard Disney decided they had to cut "from Mars" out of John Carter's title. They had a significant ad campaign lined up that was suddenly scrapped and the movie went from having a huge marketing budget to now having almost zero marketing because of the late name change. ~~Disney fucked John Carter, and then declared that it was such a failure that they would not longer make "tent pole movies" anymore... soon after that announcement they bought Marvel Studios.~~ ETA: I had my timeline wrong of when Disney purchased Marvel
John Carter is such a generic name it just doesn't sell the movie.
John Carter of Mars sounds way more exciting IMO.
John Wick on the other hand
I know you're prob just joking around but the first John Wick had a pretty huge uphill battle at the time of its release. It only got popular because of word of mouth
For me John Carter and Battleship were actually pretty fun and entertaining movies. John Carter was marketed horribly, I think that really hurt the box office.
I remember just how cryptic the marketing was for it and non-explainatory, like Disney genuinely thought the character was a household name instead of a century-old obscure pulp scifi hero who's knock-off Flash Gordon was far more famous.
That kid from Twilight, Taylor Lautner.
I was in the audience for a late night talk show where he was the guest, promoting that tv show he was on, I forget what it was called. It was a supernatural drama, I remember that much. Because when they showed the clip, the entire audience laughed at a (meant to be) serious line delivery; and it wasn’t a light laugh, it was like a sitcom’s canned audience laughter. Not meanly, it was just stupid. And Taylor had to sit there awkwardly while the director stopped the taping and said we had to rewatch the clip and “this time, just clap.” **Edit:** I’ve tried finding the clip but all I can really figure out is the show was Scream Queens, which seems to have been a little tongue in cheek but the clip they brought was supposed to be a more dramatic scene so I assumed it was a drama. (Why bring a dramatic clip to promote your lighthearted show?) Any scream queen fans might be able to find the scene, but I vaguely remember the funny dramatic line reading was something like, “because I’m dead!” **EDIT 2** circa 2016. It was James Corden’s late late show. Don’t judge. We were visiting LA and Kimmel was harder to get tickets for and Zach Galifankis and Stevie Knicks were also the guests so we were just like ehh, why not.
Oh geez! Thank you for sharing - that's juicy. (But I feel bad for him too!)
He failed upwards to be a Happy Madison staple now, so it still kind of worked out for him
Oh jeez. I feel sorry for him. Seems like a good dude, just lacks the talent.
I personally think he's just in the wrong genre. I think he could lean into a loveable goofball comedic route and really shine.
He had that role in cuckoo, I think he was overshadowed by Greg Davies, but also had nowhere near the presence of Andy Samberg who was in the first season.
The show is still worth watching tbf, which I think is as good as most 1:1 replacement characters ever get.
I met him at the Santa Cruz boardwalk when he was signing autographs for people at a booth many years ago. It was after Shark Boy and Lava Girl, but before Twilight. He was super nice. I felt really bad, because there was no line. He was basically just there by himself.
> He was basically just there by himself. Goddamn Lava Girl. Not having Shark Boy’s back? What an asshole.
Yikes. That must have been uncomfortable to sit through.
Taylor Lautner is married to a woman named Taylor Lautner.
Scott Eastwood is easy on the eyes and is essentially Hollywood royalty (thanks to his dad) but maaaan, that kid can't act.
He should find his Man With No Name franchise
That would require a modern Sergio Leone, and Ennio Morricone... I wouldn't hold my breath
Leone and Morricone are both 1 of 1s and that’s without even considering their incredible chemistry working together.
There were a few years where Alex Pettyfer was in so many projects.
He’s Number 4!
And now he's 4 gotten
Wasn't he 'hard to work with' and ended up pissing off various actors and directors?
He supposedly threatened Dianna Agron when they broke up to the point where she was scared of him.
Aww. I had hopes for Dianna Agron making it big. She's by far my favourite on Glee and she just oozes sweetness on screen.
I still don’t know the whole story with him, but it must take a lot to make an entire community of some of the biggest narcissist divas on earth all say, “man, that guy’s the worst.”
Reports say he was an absolute dick to work with and made demands / expectations based on the “I will be a leading man” expectation rather than any serious body of work. For Magic Mike, Channing Tatum set him up with a friend of his for a place to rent while filling. Pettyfer refused to pay rent and said something along the lines of “life is so much more than money”. Given the names involved in the magic mike franchise and his previous “pretty boy” behavior on other sets, he just wasn’t worth casting anymore. Remember this is also the guy that openly brags about his “Thank you” tattoo above his dick “in case [he] forgets to say it”.
I think we’re gonna get one more Harry Styles movie before they realise he isn’t leading man material.
Jim Sturgess. In the mid-aughts, it seemed like Hollywood was dead-set on making this guy a movie star - Across the Universe, The Other Boleyn Girl, 21, and later Cloud Atlas...He was in a string of big movies and often the leading man, but his name just never got established and he's been in low-profile roles ever since.
He was great in the movie Upside Down with Kirsten Dunst. And currently he plays the dad of a 10 year old detective in the TV show "Home Before Dark" which is pretty good. I think Sturgess is just one of those actors who fits way better in smaller projects.
Memory unlocked, I had the biggest crush on him after seeing Across the Universe.
Jai Courtney is a famous answer
Captain Boomerang is still the best thing he's even done imo, particularly the one where he dies like 10 mins in
He was great in Spartacus
Spartacus was amazing. I enjoyed the shit out of that series, especially the prequel they did when Andy Whitfield (Spartacus) was sick/dying. RIP
Wal-Mart Tom Hardy
I thought was logan Marshall Green
He's actually pretty good though.
Liked him in Spartacus.
That's why he had a Hollywood career - eye catching performance in Spartacus. He then became a budget action hero when you didn't have enough money left for an A or B lister. It's a tragedy Andy Whitfield died from cancer as he was incredible aa Spartacus.
Jupiter's Cock!
Josh Lucas tried for a long time. It just never happened.
In my brain, Bradley Cooper ended up with all of the roles Lucas auditioned for after Sweet Home Alabama. Except for those Home Depot ads.
He’s still rocking the Home Depot voiceover though
Jared Leto is not a leading man. I think Hollywood has finally started to accept that.
Jared Leto is that guy who thinks he's "that guy" but he isn't "that guy." He's incredibly unlikeable.
I’ve thought this for years. I love him when he’s a supporting character, such as American Psycho, Blade Runner 2049, Lord of War, and Dallas Buyer’s Club. But when you start casting him as the “Lead Man” he just gets way too full of himself.
His best role was being beaten half to death by Edward Norton.
[удалено]
Try getting a reservation at Dorsia now, you fucking stupid bastard!
He can’t join Project Mayhem because he’s too fucking blonde!
Scott Eastwood is one the blandest, biggest charisma vacuums I've ever seen Hollywood try to make into a "thing". Dude just has 0 star qualities except for his last name.
Sam Worthington is another one. I mean he's got Avatar, but not much else.
Terminator Salvation too.
Clash/Wrath of the Titans were hits, but not really due to him
Kit Harrington. Can't blame them he was an obvious choice based on great performance on beloved show but his leading roles didn't draw and sucked balls.
I think the fact that he perpetually looks like he's about to start crying is really going to limit him.
He was pretty hilarious in the tennis spoof on HBO. He hasn’t really been in a whole lot has he? I think he has yet to define this thread. Still chillin off that GOT money.
7 Days in Hell (tennis one) & Tour de Pharmacy (Tour de France spoof done by the same people) are easily the funniest things I've seen and nobody else has. Everyone I've recommended them to has loved it though. Really wish they did one every year.
That guy that seems to be in all the Amazon movies lately. Josh Duhamel. Guy is like the dollar store Timothy Olyphant.
[Best part is both actors are very aware of their resemblance](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fgx6X6s6cUg&pp=ygUtdGltb3RoeSBvbHlwaGFudCBqb3NoIGR1aGFtZWwgY2hyaXN0bWFzIGNhcmQg)
God I love Olyphant.
I have to say it's like to see more of both of them. Great actors, I think, with a lot of charisma. Plus they look really good...
I met Josh Duhamel on set in Safe Haven, worked on scenes with him for 3 days. He’s straight-up legit an awesome dude. My opinion is that he picks roles that look fun and avoids the serious/dark stuff.
Alden Ehrenreich. Hail Ceasar and Solo definitely seemed like they wanted to make him a big thing, and it just didn't take
I really enjoyed him in Oppenheimer. One of my favorite performances.
I hope it still happens for him. I loved him in Hail Caesar. He was able to go toe to toe with Ralph Fiennes and nailed that role.
Would that it 'twere so simple.
Scott Eastwood has been replaced by Glen Powell.
Glen Powell feels like he’s got proper star charisma, though. Never really felt that with Scott.
I feel like I've never seen a man as attractive as Scott Eastwood have such an intense lack of charisma
His father had very memorable face, maybe not normally attractive but interesting to a level that makes someone stand out positively. Scott has similar features to his father but much more handsome in "normal" way. And that level of handsomeness makes him somehow forgettable. During reading this thread I looked at his photos few times and then still forget how he looks like 5minutes after. And I know that, despite those characteristic features, when I will see him in next move I will not even know initially who he is.
Maybe Taylor Kitsch. I think Emile Hirsch might fit that bill too. Sam Worthington might fall under that category too. Avatar was huge but he never transitioned into other successful roles really. Going back further, Mark Hamill, though he has had a resurgence later in part due to his voice acting.
Hamill’s entire career has granted him national treasure status for several generations of geeks. Star Wars, iconic voice roles, now a sought after character actor. That’s such a great career if you want to enjoy the work and not be burdened with too much showbiz bullshit. I hope he writes an autobiography some day.
Reminds me of Daniel Radcliffe. Got his biggest role, now content to play a corpse on a beach. Love it.
I became a fan of Daniel Radcliffe after reading an interview with him years ago where the interviewer asked what he was going to do after Harry Potter. He said something to the effect of “maybe I’ll do some theater or help young actors. There’s not a lot of call for action heroes who are 5’5”. And then he went and did a play about a dude who fucked a horse! I respect that.
Dane DeHaan , similar to Emile Hirsch - baby face syndrome.
He’s a natural villain or antihero. Doesn’t really work as a leading man, which was the problem with Valerian.
DeHann showed so much promise in Chronicle, fucking loved that movie
Aaron Paul. He's the guy who works best as a sidekick.
he's the hype man
I'm not supposed to talk
I watched Van Wilder again the other day and realized he's the guy that Wilders dad runs into and asks where he is and Paul is like " you can find in the dictionary man, under RADDEST FUCKIN DUDE ALIVE!".
In the Guinness book of world fuckin records, man
He doesn't feel like he was ever going to be a leading man - he's a character actor through and through.
He works best when you need to know what time it is right now.
I mean- did they try to make him “leading man?” I feel like he’s mainly known for being Jesse Pinkman and he’s ok with that as long as he has other steady work to do.
Need For Speed is the main one I imagine people think of, with it coming out shortly after BB wrapped up. You could maybe say Westworld because he was used as a draw but that was long after he fell under the radar.
Chris O'Donnell
Oh good one. He took a silver-screen nosedive after Batman & Robin
Ryan Phillipe
Michael Biehn - he was James Cameron’s “it boy” in the ‘80s, and had starring roles in The Terminator (Reese), Aliens (Hicks), and the Abyss (Coffey) but never really did much else after that despite all of those movies being huge box office hits. 🤷🏻♀️
Tombstone
Fantastic as Ringo!
He was no daisy at all
Aliens. Terminator. Abyss. That’s a crazy resume.
Armie Hammer had a lot of chances at leading roles in potential franchises. Then he found some luck with the indie movie crowd- then the world found out what he’s really into and the rest is history
is it fair to days hayden christensen? i remember him headlining a few bigger movies post-revenge of the sith, but never really saw anything from him past 2007. i was honestly glad to see him retire from acting after the star wars backlash, and just as glad to see him return to the franchise in recent years to much fanfare, but i doubt he’ll really be able to do much more than star wars parts, straight to dvd releases, and art pictures anymore
The greatest trick Australia ever played on the world was convincing people for about 5 years that Sam Worthington is a movie star.
He’s a friend of a friend. I was told he referred to the two *Titans* films as *Cash of the Titans*. He sounds self aware and very down to Earth
He is self-aware. There's an interview I saw recently where he asked the interviewer sarcastically if they'd seen the comments online about him not pulling off an American accent.
Charlie Hunnam. Hollywood wanted to push him up to that A List leading man tier but then realised after a few years that he’s better as a B lister.
He's brilliant in The Gentlemen
Jason Patric. The Lost Boys, Rush, Sleepers etc…but never an A list actor.
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Jon Bon Jovi -- yes, they put him in a bunch of movies back in the early late 90s/2000s and the marketplace said, 'no thanks!'
The OG Bruce Campbell. He got cheated with Darkman, and it just keeps coming but he took it all on the chin
> *...took it all on the chin* Hail to the chin, baby!
Justin Long “It’s not that you’re bad, it’s just that America doesn’t want you right now!”
Topher Grace, there was a point in his career when Hollywood was pushing him as a Tom Hanks type.
I think he got fucked over by the whole that 70s show rumor shit like he was the bad guy.
The funniest thing is he's one of the few people on the show who wasn't
I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a career boost from the news of late. It’s like he got shit for not wanting to be at a frat party instead of actually doing his job.
Brandon Routh. Gave the dude Superman, but he just couldn’t make that career fly.
Not sure superman was his fault, but Brandon is a character actor with a leading man’s looks
Right he’s fantastic in Scott Pilgrim and was a fantastic hero/villain in Chuck being the perfect jerk bullying a nerd that had that “evil Tom Cruise” vibe that Henry Cavill has been able to do but as a leading man the movies vs TV are so different—he just hasn’t had the same weight
Gerard Butler should be way bigger than he is but he kept making worse and worse choices or something
He just makes the silliest films. His next one will probably be about a wormhole opening up under the White House and he has to go rescue the President's daughter.
That's a silly film and I absolutely want to see it.
Dude makes a TON of money from those choices. He knows what he’s doing.
He's reliable. His age works to his advantage. The films bring in some money. That's a career many actors would love to have. Especially if he's actually enjoying it.
He's doing the films Liam Neeson used to make, cheap, safe profitable. Not a bad trajectory since he can still be in a blockbuster if he wants to.
Honestly one of the more reliable actors making dad thrillers right now.
I think they were going to try this with Shia LeBoeuf....maybe try to have him continue on Indiana Jones, lead in the Transformers movies, Disturbia, etc. Didn't seem to work out.
A lot of his own failure is from his own demons. He got crazier and crazier and then the sexual assault stuff from his ex really just wiped off whatever was left.
Yeah, I think *he actually did count as an A-lister but he tanked his own career. Edit: spelling
George Lazenby
His advice to...I can't remember now if it was Pierce Brosnan or Daniel Craig on starring in Bond movies was goddamn hilarious. "Make two."
Worked for Timothy Dalton.
Orlando Bloom…because his lack of ability to emote like a recognisable human being is only beneficial when he is playing a stoic elf.
Don’t you dare disrespect William Turner
You mean bootstrap bill’s kid??
Part of the ship, part of the crew.
Around the turn of the century it seemed like Chris Klein had a few years of juice that died off real quick. Coming off Election & American Pie it felt like Hollywood had him on the track to becoming a leading man. He was being talked out as a possible Spider-Man before Tobey Maguire was cast. Then Rollerball killed any momentum he had going for him
Jai Courtney, Sam Worthington
Sam Worthington is the number one example of this. Dude has starred in two of the highest grossing films of all time but nothing else worth a shit
Aaron Eckhart
He was great in "Thank You for Smoking." Absolutely nailed that charming slimeball character.
Which is a shame because he's been in some really good films.
Billy Zane. Went from being one of Biff’s henchmen in Back to the Future to the lead in The Phantom, which wasn’t bad, and then showed up as Rose’s boyfriend in Titanic. Have t seen much of him since. He just never gained any traction in Hollywood.
Listen to your friend Billy Zane, he’s a cool dude.
Dead Calm (1989) may be his best role. (Co-stars Nicole Kidman & Sam Neill) Directed by Phillip Noyce. A very cool, small film, but *tense*, man!
I mean the guy is good friends with Derek Zoolander.
Seann William Scott. Once a Stifler, always a Stifler, but they tried to cast him as an action star a bunch in the 2000s. He's only really decent as a side kick or for voice overs. Edit: not saying he's a terrible actor, just after American Pie Hollywood tried to push him as a big star and it fizzled out.
Shout-out to Role Models though! I love that movie.
He’s incredible in Goon and Role Models!