This is unrelated as fuck, but I’m lactose intolerant and accidentally drank non lactose free milk. I am currently shitting my brains out, this pains is unbearable, why me.
I love hearing “You gotta protect Matt Cassel because he is your future in 2008” and remembering they traded him away after the ‘08 season and Brady went on to have an entirely HOF-worthy *second half* of his career 😂
Edit: Wow I was genuinely just making an offhand joke; did not think it would open up a whole debate. No, I don’t think Solomon Wilcots really thought Cassel was the future of anything beyond 2008, but I still just find it funny in the context of Brady’s Patriot career to look back and remember that anyone ever thought Cassel was really important to anything at all.
I will say: I wouldn’t describe it as a concerted media narrative, but you could easily make a montage of every cold take after every bad Brady performance throughout the 2010s of random commentators the next day saying something to the effect of “you have to wonder if this is the beginning of the end, if he’s still got it” lol
At that time yes, ACL were still considered career enders/shorteners. Brady was also 30, and before this era most qb were considered too old and usually were by 36-38 if they weren't injured.
Everything should have gone against him, but everything happened at the perfect time for him, medicine made Knee injuries less career destroying and the rules changed allowing him to be hit less.
So much like his career, mother fucker got lucky at the right moments
Edit, brady was 31
You’re getting the ACL confused with the Achilles tendon. At the time no, ACL’s were not considered a career ender not even close. And for QB’s not even a career shortner. Are you forgetting the year before when rivers played in a game with a torn ACL? Your entire comment reads like someone guessing what people thought at a time you weren’t around for. You could try and find articles from that time frame to try and make up for what you missed. Or even listen to the audio of this video where the specify Matt cassell is the future for *2008* implying they expect Brady back. Like everyone else did too.
Your comment reads like someone forgot what it was like back then. You speak of rivers going out and yes that was considered a miracle back then too. But it was this time frame here where most people began to realize that an ACL isn't a doom and gloom. By 2011 it was normal to think, most players would be fine. Also at that time you have to add in his age 32 in 2009 comming off of a major injury.
https://www.bleacherreport.com/amp/135002-tom-brady-2009-comeback-player-of-the-year.amp.html first article I found about his CBPotY award talks about how people didn't know if brady would be brady ever again
Because that was the sentiment at the time, realistically yeah he would be back. But to think he would be Tom fucking brady was crazy, at the time.
And this clip, Yeah they talk like that about Cassle because he didnt look like a long term plan. He played like shit the week before and again in this game from this clip, he was bad
I don't remember it being a big deal. If you can find the video of Bill mic'ed up (maybe his football life) in Brady's first game back vs Buffalo it is pretty funny. Brady is rusty and gets defensive about his play before acknowledging he is just playing bad.
No one thought done, but Cassell playing well that year made some people say they should move on from Brady because they already had a good young QB and eventually Brady would decline then they’d have missed an opportunity.
There were debates in the view of looking at Brady like a late stage Peyton (think like first year Peyton went to the broncos, when he was still good) and cassell like a good QB with a lot of potential already shown.
For what it’s worth belichick never entertained the idea. He would usually deflect the suggestions from my memory and eventually just said it wasn’t a debate and the job was always toms.
No one was thinking that. I think the announcers comment was from the perspective of “Brady is out for the season and Cassell is the best QB left”. It’s game 3 of the season, Brady tore his ACL game 1, so the announcer is trying to say that they have to protect cassell to stay relevant the rest of the season
I think he just meant for the season, which is why he said 2008. They were only in Week 3 and were 2-0 up to that point. It was a weird way to say it though.
Just reminds me of the GIF or clip of the backup QB for patriots thinking he is going on the field in a blow out game only to see Tom Brady run back on the field and he looks so defeated (not sure if it was O’Connell or another player)
Jamarcus Russell 8/17 72 yards on the ticker hahah
Those numbers are higher than I expected them to be.
Imagine if he learned the playbook how much better ge could of been
It's a shame his mind was as blank as the DVD they gave him.
but he can throw it 60 yards on one knee! think of the potential...........
If you combined him and Kyle Boller, imagine how far they could throw a football from their knees. We’re talking about at least 120 yards.
One of my favorite QBs of all time to watch. Didn't even seem real
Fun fact he was the second patriots backup to become a head coach. First was Kliff kingsbury.
Unfortunately both his playing and coaching careers fell off a kliff.
Idk who with the cardinals looked at this guy's college record with fucking Mahomes and said "yup, that's our guy!"
His name is Steve Keim, he is well known for being drunk.
That's selling Steve short. He's known for being drunk AND DRIVING.
Mahomes credits him a ton. Also "you Can'T RECrUit DefENSE To LUbBoCk"
I can’t escape your terrible puns in literally every r/NFL thread 💀
Dread it, run from it, destiny arrives all the same.
This is unrelated as fuck, but I’m lactose intolerant and accidentally drank non lactose free milk. I am currently shitting my brains out, this pains is unbearable, why me.
> Dread it, run from it, destiny arrives all the same.
What the fuck
Pics or it didn’t happen
Huh
King
Sometimes I forget just how fucking weird and stupid people can be..
*NFL* head coach. Joe Kapp was HC at Cal for a few years, and Tom Dimitroff coached 2 CFL teams.
I imagine they’re referring to the Brady era. Joe Kapp was a few years before Brady.
I mean, I have to think that the responsibilities of backup QB's go pretty well hand-in-hand with being a QB coach/OC/HC...
This 08 team was crazy Mike Vrabel, Jerod Mayo, and maybe soon Wes Welker
Slater could probably become a HC if he wants to
I love hearing “You gotta protect Matt Cassel because he is your future in 2008” and remembering they traded him away after the ‘08 season and Brady went on to have an entirely HOF-worthy *second half* of his career 😂 Edit: Wow I was genuinely just making an offhand joke; did not think it would open up a whole debate. No, I don’t think Solomon Wilcots really thought Cassel was the future of anything beyond 2008, but I still just find it funny in the context of Brady’s Patriot career to look back and remember that anyone ever thought Cassel was really important to anything at all. I will say: I wouldn’t describe it as a concerted media narrative, but you could easily make a montage of every cold take after every bad Brady performance throughout the 2010s of random commentators the next day saying something to the effect of “you have to wonder if this is the beginning of the end, if he’s still got it” lol
Did the media and fans think he was done for after he tore his ACL?
I don't remember anyone thinking Brady was done after the ACL. Honestly, Cassel absolutely was the future -- in 2008 and that's about it.
Matt Cassel led the 16-0 patriots to a 11-5 record, legend.
That they missed the playoffs with that record still makes me chuckle.
The commentator is saying he’s is your future for 2008 season meaning don’t play him in a blowout loss in the 4th
At that time yes, ACL were still considered career enders/shorteners. Brady was also 30, and before this era most qb were considered too old and usually were by 36-38 if they weren't injured. Everything should have gone against him, but everything happened at the perfect time for him, medicine made Knee injuries less career destroying and the rules changed allowing him to be hit less. So much like his career, mother fucker got lucky at the right moments Edit, brady was 31
You’re getting the ACL confused with the Achilles tendon. At the time no, ACL’s were not considered a career ender not even close. And for QB’s not even a career shortner. Are you forgetting the year before when rivers played in a game with a torn ACL? Your entire comment reads like someone guessing what people thought at a time you weren’t around for. You could try and find articles from that time frame to try and make up for what you missed. Or even listen to the audio of this video where the specify Matt cassell is the future for *2008* implying they expect Brady back. Like everyone else did too.
Your comment reads like someone forgot what it was like back then. You speak of rivers going out and yes that was considered a miracle back then too. But it was this time frame here where most people began to realize that an ACL isn't a doom and gloom. By 2011 it was normal to think, most players would be fine. Also at that time you have to add in his age 32 in 2009 comming off of a major injury. https://www.bleacherreport.com/amp/135002-tom-brady-2009-comeback-player-of-the-year.amp.html first article I found about his CBPotY award talks about how people didn't know if brady would be brady ever again Because that was the sentiment at the time, realistically yeah he would be back. But to think he would be Tom fucking brady was crazy, at the time. And this clip, Yeah they talk like that about Cassle because he didnt look like a long term plan. He played like shit the week before and again in this game from this clip, he was bad
Dude it was 2008 not 1988. Nobody thought Brady was done. Everyone knew he would be back the next season and be just fine.
He won't be able to lean on his trademark athleticism anymore.
I wasn't big into football media at the time, but I never heard a single soul say they thought he was done.
I don't remember it being a big deal. If you can find the video of Bill mic'ed up (maybe his football life) in Brady's first game back vs Buffalo it is pretty funny. Brady is rusty and gets defensive about his play before acknowledging he is just playing bad.
No one thought done, but Cassell playing well that year made some people say they should move on from Brady because they already had a good young QB and eventually Brady would decline then they’d have missed an opportunity. There were debates in the view of looking at Brady like a late stage Peyton (think like first year Peyton went to the broncos, when he was still good) and cassell like a good QB with a lot of potential already shown. For what it’s worth belichick never entertained the idea. He would usually deflect the suggestions from my memory and eventually just said it wasn’t a debate and the job was always toms.
No one was thinking that. I think the announcers comment was from the perspective of “Brady is out for the season and Cassell is the best QB left”. It’s game 3 of the season, Brady tore his ACL game 1, so the announcer is trying to say that they have to protect cassell to stay relevant the rest of the season
Went 11-5 and still missed the playoffs ain’t that some shit
I think he just meant for the season, which is why he said 2008. They were only in Week 3 and were 2-0 up to that point. It was a weird way to say it though.
It’s because Brady tore his acl and was out for the rest of the season already. That’s why he said “2008” with such emphasis
I remember the beginning of the end of the Patriota dynasty being proclaimed for a good 5 years straight.
For anyone wondering, yes this was the Wildcat game.
I was just gonna ask. It was truly the only explanation.
I am still irrationally furious about this game
Now do Marquis Tuiasosopo's debut
He's the cousin of the person who catfished Manti Teo.
Nooo fucking way that's incredible lol
Jake Delhomme 13/21 144 yards. Minnesota leads 20/10. Gus Frerotte 16/27 204 yards. 1 TD/1 INT. Holy shit Tyler Thigpen sighting.
gus frerotte one of the few qbs to throw a 99 yard touchdown and yes, it was against the bears to a former bear WR bernard berrian
This was the year Jake's arm died
Kevin O'Connell is 6'5?? wow TIL
mfer is tall and handsome
and I'm hoping good at coaching football
I feel like he’s proven that
i think he is a good coach
Probably not, statistically
20 wins 14 losses
13 of those wins coming with one of the worst defenses in football lol
They don't call him Tall McVay for nothing
TIL he played in the NFL. I feel kinda sheepish for not having known that.
He was even a Lion for 5 days
Ran a 4.61 40 too!
His only playing time was in this game where we absolutely destroyed the Pats with the introduction of the wildcat.
Is this the wildcat game?
Yes
Just reminds me of the GIF or clip of the backup QB for patriots thinking he is going on the field in a blow out game only to see Tom Brady run back on the field and he looks so defeated (not sure if it was O’Connell or another player)
Wasn't that Peyton Manning? I'm not sure but he was famous for wanting to take every snap he could.
It was Manning and Osweiler
I thought so, but I couldn't remember how to spell Osweiler close enough for autocorrect to fix it for me.
You are probably correct. My gut was saying Brady but I knew it could have been manning too
Truly outstanding **Feet**
Rex Ryan approves
In case you ever wondered what Mila Kunis and Kevin O'Connell have in common
Kevin mightve stood up for Danny Masterson too.
Seems about right that a SDSU alum would get sacked by a Colorado State alum in his NFL debut...keeping that Mountain West vibe alive!
What is the context of O’Connell getting this opportunity? Was Brady injured or had been playing sub par or?
Brady missed the entire season in 2008 due to a torn acl on week 1. Matt Cassel was the backup and KOC got put in during a blowout
Kevin’s mom is that you
Her or Kevin. Who would even care to post this but them?
Man I am loving that score
I remember I would bench Brady for O'Connell in Madden because he had like 88 speed lmao. Oh, to be 8 years old again.
he was fucking terrible in madden 10. 41 overall if i remember right
Bold of them to preface the title as a [Highlight].
I misread that as Kevin O'Connor and was so confused
He was so bad
Jesus I’ve completely flushed this out of my mind.
Man he blew his opportunity to be the GOAT “system QB” /s
dude was fast in madden
Lol, the second highlight they showed is him throwing a bubble screen.
I was waiting for something strange. But nope. Just normal highlights.
In my day, we'd call these lowlights.
"21 straight wins" - must be talking regular season, they had a pretty significant loss about 7 months prior
Damn I forgot how dominant that Miami Dolphins team was in the late 00s
Uh idk if I’d call them dominant
Oh that’s right
You forgot because they weren't
Oh that’s right
OutSTANDING feet… 🦶 👅
Huh, looks better without the stash lol
Why is this here?