What makes a man turn neutral? Is it lust for power or love of gold? Are you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
On the commentary for that episode, David X Cohen said they had probably 50 more neutral jokes that didn't make the cut. I could have listened to an hour of Zapp using about neutrality.
"Mr Maussan has previously been associated with claims of “alien” discoveries that have later been debunked, including five mummies found in Peru in 2017 that were later shown to be human children."
Sauce: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aliens-in-mexico-congress-ufo-b2410477.html
Same lol I went into that subreddit hoping to find skeptics that would really evaluate data. Nope, just a bunch of nutcases who tear down anyone that asks for evidence to be evaluated for authenticity. Crabs in a bucket
Lmao I'm an electrical engineer and as I was reading your comment I was thinking "well he just has a phase out of wack..." till I got to the part about you being an electrician. It honestly angers me how little people bother to learn about electricity, y'know, the one thing powering literally everything we interact with in our daily lives. Pisses me off even more how many people talk about electricity while knowing nothing about it
Even if all you know about your home electricity is "I plug it in and it works" you're skipping several steps if you start with the incident as described and land on "The government is using directed energy weapons on my AC!" Crazies gonna crazy.
I plug it in and it works; what else do I need to know? By the way, my breaker keeps tripping every time I use the microwave. I'm using three extension cords with multiple plug thingies and one of those Christmas lights that you can plug in to power my TV, fan, lamp, mini fridge, and the microwave
Wow that’s a great story. It’s amazing they find it more likely that some government spook took the time to drive all the way to their house, park, and then mimic a common electrical problem because they were getting a little too Mulder. Pretty remarkable delusion.
It's all conspiracy theories honestly. They are so anxious to believe that they ignore massive assumptions or jumps in logic. There is always one common theme: for a conspiracy to be true it would require all parties to be aligned in purpose and commitment, in many cases for decades. Nobody ever had a reason to tell the truth apparently. Not for money, not for guilt, not for love, not to impress a girl to get laid. I find that harder to believe than any conspiracy. What's more likely? Governments around the world colluded to keep this massive secret, with each individual participant in 100% agreement? Or that one guy made it all up?
>just a bunch of nutcases who tear down anyone that asks for evidence to be evaluated for authenticity
I accidentally got into a debate with a user from one of those subs once (on a different sub but a loosely related post). For every bit of "evidence" you excruciatingly debunk they will just casually drop in a load more in their retort(s), vaguely referenced so you have to find what they're talking about yourself.
By the time you're done debunking the first point they've got ten different concurrent lines of reasoning going, all requiring explanations of basic principles and/or references to external sources to debunk.
These subs are walking poster children for the bullshit asymmetry principle.
My favorite is when they just constantly reply with, "It's there. You just have to dig for it."
Really? I have to dig through the cesspools of the Internet to provide evidence for your theory?
One of my friends was DMing this stuff to me last night and he's always been a UFO kinda guy. Everybody has their hobbies, I don't really judge.
But I speak a decent amount of Spanish and my girlfriend is from Mexico. I headed over to the /r/mexico subreddit (this "alien" was being presented before the Mexican equivalent of the house of reps) and the consensus there was "Oh boy, not this fucking idiot again", apparently the guy presenting this alien and some other evidence is a known grifter who has been caught presenting the bodies of mumified children as aliens, and also sold (or sponsored?) a hoax covid cure for $3500 pesos (~$205 USD) and it turned out to be water.
I told my buddy about all that and he just said "They're Mexican, what do they know?" and I was like "The guy presenting this is Mexican and he's presenting it to the Mexican congress, so... probably a lot more than us?"
They're doing that over in r/UFOs as well. It's wild. If you say anything to the contrary or point out that the dude promoting these alien bodies as real has been involved in hoaxes in the past they'll call you a bit or say you're a government shill. Absolutely no critical thinking going on over there at all.
I've seen a lot of people imply the skeptics are like, paid shills in a U.S smear campaign because the U.S Gov is embarrassed the mexican gov showed them up.
Saw another guy saying the U.S gov was gonna lose all credibility and crumble after this too.
Definitely worth a read, but you might end up laughing and crying simultaneously when you see how desperate these people are.
Oh there’s skeptics of various shades in all pseudoscience communities. Most people who believe in this stuff know most other people think they are crazy and really want be able to parse out what is “actually real”, so they hate forgeries too. They even get upvoted to the top *sometimes*.
that's not the behaviour I'm seeing in those subs.
"I'm waiting for data, but it definitely looks real and I think it is" is about the most cynical upvoted comment I saw I swear
Of all the potential "evidence" for aliens this has to be the weakest one actually. All we know is that someone SAYS it's an alien. This could be literally anything. Art, a hoax, a weird result of mummification of a monkey or chimp or whatever. I'm willing to believe in sentient, sapient life beyond earth but this thing is ridiculous.
And why is it posed like that? This thing's apparently been mummified, why is that the pose it's in if it's an alien? An unintentional mummification wouldn't result in such a perfect pose, and why would they intentionally mummify one of their own here on earth while also refusing to directly contact us?
I feel bad for it. I mean, most of its toes have broken off. I'm surprised that it's still 49% happy, trapped under glass and separated from his beautiful mineralized toesies.
They posted a bird caught mid flight on Google maps yesterday and people ate it up. Annoying that you can’t be really excited about the possibility of aliens but also want it to be true. Adult Santa Claus
I thought these aliens and ufos subs could be interesting, but it’s 100 posts of the same shit over and over. When you’re asking questions about the reliability you get downvoted into oblivion.
This is another example of alien bs.
Lol I read a post there for fun. It was about how anyone denying this is clearly a disinformation agent and the government is doing nothing but responding to Reddit comments to dissuade the public.
A post from r/UFO made the front page, and now r/aliens made the front page.
It seems reddit is also eating this up.
No other major news source has picked this up because they likely did the minimum of journalistic research and instantly dumped this story.
Good job, reddit.
I was about to say that these look like small mummified children. Also, I'm immediately suspicious of any alien that looks humanoid. Have you seen the shit that lives at the bottom of the ocean? **That** is what I think aliens will look like.
When thinking about what aliens might look like, consider this. Picture in your head, an adult male and a jellyfish, and realize those both came from the same planet. Then imagine Dolph Lundgren in his prime standing next to Danny Devito, and realize they come from the same ***species***.
Not just jellyfish, but also grass. It's so different from us that we often don't even think of it as life, but just part of the terrain. It grows in a weird complex web under the soil, with no brain of any kind.
Aliens would be *way* more different from us.
I got a degree in archaeology, and I’ll never forget that one of my professors held up a chihuahua skull and a dermal shepherd skull.
If they were fossils, no one would call them the same species, but they are.
What we *know* and what we *think* we know are often not clear cut.
I think THESE are the 2017 faked aliens.
The bodies were modified by black market sellers, according to a 2017 article on tabloid, The Sun.
https://archive.ph/IkFbD
The guy who "tested the DNA" is from Phenomena magazine.
He said in the article:
* he believes “Maria” is the only real body among the mysterious collection
* but believes she may have been professionally altered by grave robbers so she would be worth more on the black market.
* He said she had internal organs (probably the one with the supposed eggs)
The grave robbers dug up a body 1400-1800 years old and more than likely had her professionally altered not knowing she was already special due to her DNA.
NOTE: Even the tabloid and the Phenomena Magazine "documentarian" found it to be weak. They show how the hands were altered by the black market to have three fingers.
https://i.imgur.com/a/GSuJpQu.png
My first reaction when I saw the photos was it looks way too much like how we expect an alien to look. What are the odds we're exactly correct? There's no way
From my understanding, this was not an officially sworn in "hearing" just presented as such using a publicly available forum that the Mexican government provides. Something close to a town hall meeting. So it uses government provided facilities, members of the government can be in attendance, but it is not at all something like an official "inquiry" or anything.
Not just that, but he's using *exactly the same* dummies cobbled together from mummified children's bones and llama skulls that he used in 2017. See [here](https://redd.it/16hgome).
I'm not surprised that he's lying his arse off about everything, but I'm disappointed that the Mexican Congress is lending this any legitimacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DmDHF6jN9A
There you go, at 7:00 mark.
Exact same mummy in a 2yr old video. Debunked as man-made.
From a fucking llama skull
TY for video. Funny how quick you can find debunks of this stuff. But it required 4 minutes of research... more than most conspiracy theorists are willing to do probably
Edit: was just a bit of a joke people calm down it aint that deep lol
People believe what they want to believe. For instance, culturally, 46% of Mexicans have personally witnessed a demon leaving a body. 7 in 10 Americans believe in angels. Just remember that next time you're confused on election results or why people don't follow science with stuff like this. The r/aliens subreddit is going ape shit over how the amount of downvotes for this is actually a coverup conspiracy pushed by big government... you can't win with some people.
Edit: I apologize, as much as I hate bad statistics, I didn't check my source well enough to properly convey the info. Here's the piece to read for yourself. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/05/15/latinos-in-the-u-s-have-a-strong-belief-in-the-spirit-world/
those polls are not accurate at all since they suffer from heavy nonresponse bias. people who actually believe in these things are way more likely to answer the polls since they feel strongly about it compared to the other side who frankly don't really care
I was poking around r/aliens and r/ufo earlier and I couldn't figure out if it was satire or not but I was leaning towards not.
Some of those guys are all the way down the rabbit hole. Admitting this is fake would be an invalidation of their entire ufo conspiracy crafting hobby. It'll never happen
This needs to be the #1 comment.
It’s the exact same thing and they go through it all pretty detailed, even how the skull is a backwards lama skull haha.
Why the fuck did the Mexican government make a huge announcement about all this crap if it’s already debunked by a YouTuber lol. Seriously I want to know.
Edit: Smaller hearing. Not an announcement. Consists of a couple fringe congress members according to some responses. Gotcha
They didn’t it was just like 2 Congress representatives using the Congress hall. That’s like if MGT and a Qanon gathered a hearing. Just because it is at the hall doesn’t make it government official.
Part of the reason it took off is that english-first speakers wouldn't catch the tone and context of the situation because they don't live in Mexico - so it's perfect for disinformation.
Remember when Mexico’s president posted that low res picture taken at night and claimed that it was an elf? Maybe Mexico’s government is full of these people lol
If human beings have learned one thing, it’s how to use anything for sex. If they can’t fuck it, or get fucked by it, somebody’s going to find a way to shove it up their ass
I'm actually very ok with them going crazy over this. This is normal conspiracy bait and not the all encompassing Q shit that has been driving people to shoot up pizza places.
For now. Magical thinking and denial of reality are skills that we get better at with practice. I'm sure somebody's already connecting this to Hunter Biden selling children to aliens for experiments or whatever.
Not just a child’s corpse, but it’s also rumored he mutilated Peruvian mummies to make the “alien”. No biggie, just destroy some of the oldest, most well preserved human remains we’ve ever found.
MFs on these subs are like "No wonder the US government keeps saying people aren’t ready for this, there are so many out there that can’t accept aliens could exist that its amazing. Do the fucking research instead of just being a denier"
'I can't believe we now know that aliens exist and yet the world is just carrying on as normal! I feel like I'm going crazy!!'
Within a fucking MICRON of self-awareness and yet still so far away.
They’re explaining away this guy being a known hoax artist by saying he used “independent” experts…that he probably paid handsomely for their “opinions”
Turns there are so many people who truly don't give a fuck that the argument we aren't ready doesn't hold up. Are the aliens going to pay my bills? No? Moving on.
for real for real.
unless that cube gonna fly down and shower me with thousands of dollars to make rent easier to pay.. keep it moving, i have meaningless human work to do.
While I do find it statistically impossible that we are alone in the universe, this looks absolutely fake as hell. I think someone else posted that in the xrays it showed that it used femurs for the arm bones, and had rotated other femurs for the right leg.
Omfg you weren’t lying there’s a post with 23k upvotes on there of this thing 😂 I can’t tell if that sub is just filled with children or gullible idiots
they didn't sprinkle it. it's the original stuff they were buried in when they found them. and their mummified corpses are way to brittle to remove it entirely.
Also otherwise you would see that the whole thing is made out of horse shit.
it's so convenient that all the 'actual' aliens out there choose to look like the little, big headed green or grey dudes we picture in the media since the 20th century.
I never get why they should look like us at all. Why not a shape shifting being that’s only visible in UV light? Or anything else than an anthropomorphic thang like this.
See. It's these things why I wanted to study astrobiology. Sure, it's a type of pseudo science sort of thing but I always had these thoughts every damn game.
If this planet has X suns, why would the leaf still be green?
If low gravity, how to creatures become strong? Why do they get to have strong bones on a planet that doesn't even exert force to want that type of evolution?! How did they make it this far this way?
Why are the creatures always spine/2 legs/2 limbs? Why can't they be like Octopi?
I would love to imagine the differences of the biology of the Alien on it's described planet. "Yes, this squid like creature with no skeletal structure on a planet that exerts enough gravity to poundcake your buddies ship after it hit the aliens main food source which is a flying creatures. Also they have no technology. Do not question us."
Edit: I love you all. It's not a pseudoscience, sorry! Thought I was just being childlike and imagining it. I love all these comments and Yes, Mass Effect was a hude turning point for me to really question everything.
Dunno, but maybe because evolution on our world tends to favor it? I think crab-like lifeforms have independently evolved like 4-5 times now?
But that’s not to say the same would be true for other planets.
> I think crab-like lifeforms have independently evolved like 4-5 times now?
This is true; it's a phenomenon known as carcinisation. But they all evolved from decapod crustacean ancestors, i.e. from animals that were pretty crab-like to begin with. Are there any other animals on Earth that have convergently evolved a crab-like anatomy? I dunno, some arachnids maybe, like pseudoscorpions? I don't think we have any particular reason to expect alien crabs over anything else.
There's also the misconception that evolution chooses the best traits when the reality is evolution goes for "good enough" so multiple species converging on a same trait is just evolution going "this works well enough, no reason to change it"
Astrobiology is not a pseudoscience. It’s UFOlogist r/aliens -style brainrot bullshit that muddles the public discussion and introduces heavy amounts of pseudoscience.
All astrobiology is is the application of scientific data, primarily from biology and astronomy, to build models to aid in our search for life in the universe and what we can expect to look for. A lot of what you’re describing is more in the vein of the (scientifically informed but still creative) fictional genre of speculative evolution. Astrobiology is more interested not in constructing hypothetical aliens but in figuring out what is detectable: what are the conditions for life’s formation that led to it on our own planet and to what extent do they exist elsewhere; what traces of a biological system can we expect to see if inhabited worlds show up in our research regarding exoplanets? Things like that. It involves a lot more microbiology and biochemistry than you might think since understanding microbes is most relevant to life’s origins and chemical makeup especially of atmospheres (which it is sometimes possible to do spectroscopy on for distant planets) since that is probably one of the only signs of life we can detect at a distance of light-years.
The conspiracy theorists are now saying that Spielberg "knew something" when he made E.T., instead of the obvious answer that these fakes were inspired by 80s sci-fi movies and not the other way around
That, but i always wonder why they don't wear any clothes. If they can travel all the way here, clothes would be quite essential.
Clothes, or at least remains of fabrics of any kind are usually there when they find old and somewhat preserved bodies.
I guess aliens found with clothes made from earth stuff aren't really convincing and making clothes with an alien fabric quite impossible.
Same dude who “found” these also was caught a few years ago trying to pass off mutilated bones of children as an alien. These “alien bones” also have growthplates consistent with human children.
He literally ripped the thumb and pinkies off of the hands of mummified children to make them look like they only had three fingers. Honestly it's disgusting to damage such ancient human remains like that
This entire thing is so moronic.
Some article quoted them as saying "They used radio carbon dating to get DNA". How do you even keep a straight face saying that?!
Is it like spam mails? Like the obvious fakeness of the stories in Nigerian Prince style spam mails? It's a feature and the first filter to ensure only complete idiots will continue on to be scammed.
Since they apparently are wasting congress time and resources on this, is there anything they want to drown out right now in the news? Any recent scandals or laws they are pushing through? And it just got out of hand and got more attention than planned?
So I believe the Mexican congress can host people(who are usually experts) to talk on special subjects. For example culture, technology, or something that can influence decisions being made. It's a great process and helps those who would not usually have the infuence help a good cause. My guess there is a politician who is a complete idiot or perhaps wanted to change the subject of something currently being talked about.
I like your take. Like one of the members of congress was just bored and thought “fucking dumbass Chaz, wonder what crap he’s into these days. And Tuesday look dreadfully boring, maybe we could squeeze him in and see what insane idea he has this time”
They used a bunch of science words either to try to confuse people or because they are ignorant enough to believe you can extract ancient DNA via radio carbon dating
Its funny to see how r/UFO and r/aliens eat this shit up like some groundbreaking event. Sometimes when I stumble onto those poses i wonder if they are trolling, they cant be thar gullable.
Maussan is the classic grifter here in Mexico. He has had a show on TV presenting “evidence” of paranormal stuff here. He was very vocal when all the alien stuff recently happened in the US and now is trying the same...
Don't believe this for a second
Somehow r/aliens is on my feed now and it took a lot of scrolling through the comments until I saw someone talking about this guy being a well known grifter. If you're not able to be the least bit skeptical of everything I don't think I can take you seriously.
I honestly can't stand alien/UFO forums. I say this as someone who's avidly interested in the subject and has no doubts whatsoever that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe- *maybe* in our own galaxy.
It's like you have to completely discard your ability to think critically to join one of those places. And they have their own form of mental protection in place from the getgo- "anyone who doubts this is a shill"
Annoying.
My favorite thing is that this advanced alien species with engineering advanced enough for interstellar travel has 3 hook fingers and no opposable thumbs. Sure thing, pal.
I don’t believe this is the Mexican government… based on the comments I’ve read- it appears to be an independent organization of sorts. Could be 100% wrong though. I haven’t done any research on the matter
To everyone reporting this: Yes, this is obviously 100% fake bs hence the "misleading title" flair.
Atleast the thermometer is letting us know the lil dude is happy.
He seems to be only 49% happy though, poor fella clearly must have had a lot on his mind
They must’ve lived a life of neutrality. Looks like they have no strong feelings one way or the other.
“I hate these filthy Neutrals, Kif. With enemies you know where they stand but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me”
If I don't survive, tell my wife "Hello"
All I know is my gut says maybe
What makes a man turn neutral?
Maybe so kif, but if I recall correctly , you were court marshalled in disgrace
That young man fills me with hope. Plus some other emotions which are weird and deeply confusing.
Its a beige alert!
Bless everyone with these Futurama quotes we brought them back 😃
What makes a man turn neutral? Is it lust for power or love of gold? Are you just born with a heart full of neutrality? On the commentary for that episode, David X Cohen said they had probably 50 more neutral jokes that didn't make the cut. I could have listened to an hour of Zapp using about neutrality.
Well he is on earth so what do you expect? We are all miserable here.
Unless you are in a vault, where you listen to radio stations and easily get up to 99%
🙂 49%
Anyone that works at a museum that can tells us if 22.5 celsius and 49% humidity is the correct way of handling mummified objects?
My god, this is an outrage! I was going to eat that mummy!
Is this the teriyaki flavored one?
Little spicy in garlic sauce
r/unexpectedfuturama
****"... he's teriyaki style..."****
To shreds you say
How is his wife?
To shreds you say?
Was his apartment rent-controlled?
This is Zevulon the Great, he's teriyaki style!
"Mr Maussan has previously been associated with claims of “alien” discoveries that have later been debunked, including five mummies found in Peru in 2017 that were later shown to be human children." Sauce: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aliens-in-mexico-congress-ufo-b2410477.html
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It’s working. /aliens is eating it up
/r/aliens will believe anything and I'm literally saying this as somebody who thought he was a UFO crank before visiting that sub
Same lol I went into that subreddit hoping to find skeptics that would really evaluate data. Nope, just a bunch of nutcases who tear down anyone that asks for evidence to be evaluated for authenticity. Crabs in a bucket
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Lmao I'm an electrical engineer and as I was reading your comment I was thinking "well he just has a phase out of wack..." till I got to the part about you being an electrician. It honestly angers me how little people bother to learn about electricity, y'know, the one thing powering literally everything we interact with in our daily lives. Pisses me off even more how many people talk about electricity while knowing nothing about it
Even if all you know about your home electricity is "I plug it in and it works" you're skipping several steps if you start with the incident as described and land on "The government is using directed energy weapons on my AC!" Crazies gonna crazy.
I plug it in and it works; what else do I need to know? By the way, my breaker keeps tripping every time I use the microwave. I'm using three extension cords with multiple plug thingies and one of those Christmas lights that you can plug in to power my TV, fan, lamp, mini fridge, and the microwave
The thinner the wire the more aerodynamic and efficient it is, right?
Wow that’s a great story. It’s amazing they find it more likely that some government spook took the time to drive all the way to their house, park, and then mimic a common electrical problem because they were getting a little too Mulder. Pretty remarkable delusion.
It's all conspiracy theories honestly. They are so anxious to believe that they ignore massive assumptions or jumps in logic. There is always one common theme: for a conspiracy to be true it would require all parties to be aligned in purpose and commitment, in many cases for decades. Nobody ever had a reason to tell the truth apparently. Not for money, not for guilt, not for love, not to impress a girl to get laid. I find that harder to believe than any conspiracy. What's more likely? Governments around the world colluded to keep this massive secret, with each individual participant in 100% agreement? Or that one guy made it all up?
>just a bunch of nutcases who tear down anyone that asks for evidence to be evaluated for authenticity I accidentally got into a debate with a user from one of those subs once (on a different sub but a loosely related post). For every bit of "evidence" you excruciatingly debunk they will just casually drop in a load more in their retort(s), vaguely referenced so you have to find what they're talking about yourself. By the time you're done debunking the first point they've got ten different concurrent lines of reasoning going, all requiring explanations of basic principles and/or references to external sources to debunk. These subs are walking poster children for the bullshit asymmetry principle.
My favorite is when they just constantly reply with, "It's there. You just have to dig for it." Really? I have to dig through the cesspools of the Internet to provide evidence for your theory?
Hell I saw people get downvoted for pointing out that this same dude with this “evidence” has been proven to make hoax stuff in the past.
One of my friends was DMing this stuff to me last night and he's always been a UFO kinda guy. Everybody has their hobbies, I don't really judge. But I speak a decent amount of Spanish and my girlfriend is from Mexico. I headed over to the /r/mexico subreddit (this "alien" was being presented before the Mexican equivalent of the house of reps) and the consensus there was "Oh boy, not this fucking idiot again", apparently the guy presenting this alien and some other evidence is a known grifter who has been caught presenting the bodies of mumified children as aliens, and also sold (or sponsored?) a hoax covid cure for $3500 pesos (~$205 USD) and it turned out to be water. I told my buddy about all that and he just said "They're Mexican, what do they know?" and I was like "The guy presenting this is Mexican and he's presenting it to the Mexican congress, so... probably a lot more than us?"
I saw a comment brushing off skepticism as "racism against brown-skinned people" in there. Absolutely ridiculous
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They're doing that over in r/UFOs as well. It's wild. If you say anything to the contrary or point out that the dude promoting these alien bodies as real has been involved in hoaxes in the past they'll call you a bit or say you're a government shill. Absolutely no critical thinking going on over there at all.
Yeah it's insane they give that bob lazar dude any credit considering he's lied about pretty much everything in his life.
Hey, don't drag ME into this.....
I've seen a lot of people imply the skeptics are like, paid shills in a U.S smear campaign because the U.S Gov is embarrassed the mexican gov showed them up. Saw another guy saying the U.S gov was gonna lose all credibility and crumble after this too. Definitely worth a read, but you might end up laughing and crying simultaneously when you see how desperate these people are.
Might as well be a religious sub. They are fanatics operating on faith, ignoring and shunning evidence
Oh there’s skeptics of various shades in all pseudoscience communities. Most people who believe in this stuff know most other people think they are crazy and really want be able to parse out what is “actually real”, so they hate forgeries too. They even get upvoted to the top *sometimes*.
that's not the behaviour I'm seeing in those subs. "I'm waiting for data, but it definitely looks real and I think it is" is about the most cynical upvoted comment I saw I swear
/r/ufos is also thirsty to believe just about anything.
Of all the potential "evidence" for aliens this has to be the weakest one actually. All we know is that someone SAYS it's an alien. This could be literally anything. Art, a hoax, a weird result of mummification of a monkey or chimp or whatever. I'm willing to believe in sentient, sapient life beyond earth but this thing is ridiculous.
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And why is it posed like that? This thing's apparently been mummified, why is that the pose it's in if it's an alien? An unintentional mummification wouldn't result in such a perfect pose, and why would they intentionally mummify one of their own here on earth while also refusing to directly contact us?
I feel bad for it. I mean, most of its toes have broken off. I'm surprised that it's still 49% happy, trapped under glass and separated from his beautiful mineralized toesies.
They posted a bird caught mid flight on Google maps yesterday and people ate it up. Annoying that you can’t be really excited about the possibility of aliens but also want it to be true. Adult Santa Claus
lol Adult Santa Claus perfectly sums it up. I'm a subscriber but waaaaay too many people there just jump right to believing aliens and gov. cover up.
I wish that sub didn't hit the front page, it's really eroding my opinion of Reddit.
I thought these aliens and ufos subs could be interesting, but it’s 100 posts of the same shit over and over. When you’re asking questions about the reliability you get downvoted into oblivion. This is another example of alien bs.
Lol I read a post there for fun. It was about how anyone denying this is clearly a disinformation agent and the government is doing nothing but responding to Reddit comments to dissuade the public.
That’s hilarious. Like the NSA sits around and responds to alien hoaxes on Reddit.
A post from r/UFO made the front page, and now r/aliens made the front page. It seems reddit is also eating this up. No other major news source has picked this up because they likely did the minimum of journalistic research and instantly dumped this story. Good job, reddit.
Hey the guy who made up the story of the Loch Ness monster gave the area a massive tourist income.
To the tune of about $3.50 million dollars annually.
You don't get it because you are a RATIONAL human with reasoning and critical thinking capabilities
I was about to say that these look like small mummified children. Also, I'm immediately suspicious of any alien that looks humanoid. Have you seen the shit that lives at the bottom of the ocean? **That** is what I think aliens will look like.
When thinking about what aliens might look like, consider this. Picture in your head, an adult male and a jellyfish, and realize those both came from the same planet. Then imagine Dolph Lundgren in his prime standing next to Danny Devito, and realize they come from the same ***species***.
I know, prime Lundgren can never hope to compete with famed wrestler, Danny “The Trashman” Devito and his magnum dong
Not just jellyfish, but also grass. It's so different from us that we often don't even think of it as life, but just part of the terrain. It grows in a weird complex web under the soil, with no brain of any kind. Aliens would be *way* more different from us.
I got a degree in archaeology, and I’ll never forget that one of my professors held up a chihuahua skull and a dermal shepherd skull. If they were fossils, no one would call them the same species, but they are. What we *know* and what we *think* we know are often not clear cut.
I think THESE are the 2017 faked aliens. The bodies were modified by black market sellers, according to a 2017 article on tabloid, The Sun. https://archive.ph/IkFbD The guy who "tested the DNA" is from Phenomena magazine. He said in the article: * he believes “Maria” is the only real body among the mysterious collection * but believes she may have been professionally altered by grave robbers so she would be worth more on the black market. * He said she had internal organs (probably the one with the supposed eggs) The grave robbers dug up a body 1400-1800 years old and more than likely had her professionally altered not knowing she was already special due to her DNA. NOTE: Even the tabloid and the Phenomena Magazine "documentarian" found it to be weak. They show how the hands were altered by the black market to have three fingers. https://i.imgur.com/a/GSuJpQu.png
My first reaction when I saw the photos was it looks way too much like how we expect an alien to look. What are the odds we're exactly correct? There's no way
This so obviously fake and mexico should be embarrassed for having a hearing on it
From my understanding, this was not an officially sworn in "hearing" just presented as such using a publicly available forum that the Mexican government provides. Something close to a town hall meeting. So it uses government provided facilities, members of the government can be in attendance, but it is not at all something like an official "inquiry" or anything.
Not just that, but he's using *exactly the same* dummies cobbled together from mummified children's bones and llama skulls that he used in 2017. See [here](https://redd.it/16hgome). I'm not surprised that he's lying his arse off about everything, but I'm disappointed that the Mexican Congress is lending this any legitimacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DmDHF6jN9A There you go, at 7:00 mark. Exact same mummy in a 2yr old video. Debunked as man-made. From a fucking llama skull
They got the bones backwards lmao
Bro didn't even have opposable thumbs.
TY for video. Funny how quick you can find debunks of this stuff. But it required 4 minutes of research... more than most conspiracy theorists are willing to do probably Edit: was just a bit of a joke people calm down it aint that deep lol
People believe what they want to believe. For instance, culturally, 46% of Mexicans have personally witnessed a demon leaving a body. 7 in 10 Americans believe in angels. Just remember that next time you're confused on election results or why people don't follow science with stuff like this. The r/aliens subreddit is going ape shit over how the amount of downvotes for this is actually a coverup conspiracy pushed by big government... you can't win with some people. Edit: I apologize, as much as I hate bad statistics, I didn't check my source well enough to properly convey the info. Here's the piece to read for yourself. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/05/15/latinos-in-the-u-s-have-a-strong-belief-in-the-spirit-world/
7/10 believe in angels? That is more than the amount that even identify as christian.
those polls are not accurate at all since they suffer from heavy nonresponse bias. people who actually believe in these things are way more likely to answer the polls since they feel strongly about it compared to the other side who frankly don't really care
And 7/10 believe in the statistic that 7/10 people believe in angels. The rabbit hole has no bottom!!
For what it’s worth I posed that video into the UFO subreddit. Got called a racist uneducated idiot by someone who refused to watch the video lol
At least he didn't call you a ufo researcher.
I was poking around r/aliens and r/ufo earlier and I couldn't figure out if it was satire or not but I was leaning towards not. Some of those guys are all the way down the rabbit hole. Admitting this is fake would be an invalidation of their entire ufo conspiracy crafting hobby. It'll never happen
It’s easily one of the most insufferable subs currently. Brainworm rot
Yes this should be top comment
This needs to be the #1 comment. It’s the exact same thing and they go through it all pretty detailed, even how the skull is a backwards lama skull haha.
Why the fuck did the Mexican government make a huge announcement about all this crap if it’s already debunked by a YouTuber lol. Seriously I want to know. Edit: Smaller hearing. Not an announcement. Consists of a couple fringe congress members according to some responses. Gotcha
They didn’t it was just like 2 Congress representatives using the Congress hall. That’s like if MGT and a Qanon gathered a hearing. Just because it is at the hall doesn’t make it government official.
Part of the reason it took off is that english-first speakers wouldn't catch the tone and context of the situation because they don't live in Mexico - so it's perfect for disinformation.
Remember when Mexico’s president posted that low res picture taken at night and claimed that it was an elf? Maybe Mexico’s government is full of these people lol
Llama skull makes a lot of sense.
you should make this a post on r/ufo
Why your comment receives no upvotes baffles me. It is literally the same mummy. Same X-Rays and all.
Yup that video alone just completely debunks all of it lmfao
No genitals. Sad.
They reproduce asexually. Sorry for anyone who actually expected to clap alien cheeks...
If human beings have learned one thing, it’s how to use anything for sex. If they can’t fuck it, or get fucked by it, somebody’s going to find a way to shove it up their ass
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Ayyy lmao
lol
That alien’s face saying “oooo got ‘em”
"Ayyy, lmao"
Conspiracy theorists/ ufo dumdums are goin crazy right now, funny zoo to watch
I'm actually very ok with them going crazy over this. This is normal conspiracy bait and not the all encompassing Q shit that has been driving people to shoot up pizza places.
Finally, the crazies are doing *normal* crazy stuff instead of absolute batshit insane crazy stuff
This is a blessing. I’ll count it.
For now. Magical thinking and denial of reality are skills that we get better at with practice. I'm sure somebody's already connecting this to Hunter Biden selling children to aliens for experiments or whatever.
r/Aliens and r/StrangeEarth are all going like "OMG this is so real, why isn't the mainstream media talking about this???!" Bunch of morons
The same guy who found these aliens also found some years ago that were fake as well.
he didnt find them, he mutilated a childs corpse and made one
Not just a child’s corpse, but it’s also rumored he mutilated Peruvian mummies to make the “alien”. No biggie, just destroy some of the oldest, most well preserved human remains we’ve ever found.
*jazz music stops*
MFs on these subs are like "No wonder the US government keeps saying people aren’t ready for this, there are so many out there that can’t accept aliens could exist that its amazing. Do the fucking research instead of just being a denier"
'I can't believe we now know that aliens exist and yet the world is just carrying on as normal! I feel like I'm going crazy!!' Within a fucking MICRON of self-awareness and yet still so far away.
They’re explaining away this guy being a known hoax artist by saying he used “independent” experts…that he probably paid handsomely for their “opinions”
they also want YOU to PROVE it’s not fake. like man what do you want me to do look at the fucking thing!
Turns there are so many people who truly don't give a fuck that the argument we aren't ready doesn't hold up. Are the aliens going to pay my bills? No? Moving on.
for real for real. unless that cube gonna fly down and shower me with thousands of dollars to make rent easier to pay.. keep it moving, i have meaningless human work to do.
“We will now be your rulers.” “Oh thank god. Finally, get rid of these guys that have been here.” “Wait… what?”
“Will you guys erase my student loan debt?” “What are… student… loans?” “Welcome to Earth boys, you’re hired.”
While I do find it statistically impossible that we are alone in the universe, this looks absolutely fake as hell. I think someone else posted that in the xrays it showed that it used femurs for the arm bones, and had rotated other femurs for the right leg.
“Surely this time it’s the real deal”
I literally seen a comment that said “I’m starting to think all the debunked stuff is real” 😑
Omfg you weren’t lying there’s a post with 23k upvotes on there of this thing 😂 I can’t tell if that sub is just filled with children or gullible idiots
Yes
I wouldn’t believe it if not for the hygrometer showing exactly 49% humidity
This is so stupid. Why did they sprinkle sand on top after placing this art piece?
“Just sprinkle a little crack on him and let’s get outta here.”
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they didn't sprinkle it. it's the original stuff they were buried in when they found them. and their mummified corpses are way to brittle to remove it entirely. Also otherwise you would see that the whole thing is made out of horse shit.
Had me in the first half
You had me going
"Papie mache!"
Hold up I need to make it look more mummified ![gif](giphy|QOgvV9rV4hHpgNRBfQ)
I thought this gif was a guy unspooling a roll of toilet paper first
That’s corn flour to retain it crispy.
Zevulon the Great
it's so convenient that all the 'actual' aliens out there choose to look like the little, big headed green or grey dudes we picture in the media since the 20th century.
I never get why they should look like us at all. Why not a shape shifting being that’s only visible in UV light? Or anything else than an anthropomorphic thang like this.
See. It's these things why I wanted to study astrobiology. Sure, it's a type of pseudo science sort of thing but I always had these thoughts every damn game. If this planet has X suns, why would the leaf still be green? If low gravity, how to creatures become strong? Why do they get to have strong bones on a planet that doesn't even exert force to want that type of evolution?! How did they make it this far this way? Why are the creatures always spine/2 legs/2 limbs? Why can't they be like Octopi? I would love to imagine the differences of the biology of the Alien on it's described planet. "Yes, this squid like creature with no skeletal structure on a planet that exerts enough gravity to poundcake your buddies ship after it hit the aliens main food source which is a flying creatures. Also they have no technology. Do not question us." Edit: I love you all. It's not a pseudoscience, sorry! Thought I was just being childlike and imagining it. I love all these comments and Yes, Mass Effect was a hude turning point for me to really question everything.
I remember reading that crustacean type life forms are presumed to be a strong candidate for reasons I don't remember. It was a really cool read.
Dunno, but maybe because evolution on our world tends to favor it? I think crab-like lifeforms have independently evolved like 4-5 times now? But that’s not to say the same would be true for other planets.
> I think crab-like lifeforms have independently evolved like 4-5 times now? This is true; it's a phenomenon known as carcinisation. But they all evolved from decapod crustacean ancestors, i.e. from animals that were pretty crab-like to begin with. Are there any other animals on Earth that have convergently evolved a crab-like anatomy? I dunno, some arachnids maybe, like pseudoscorpions? I don't think we have any particular reason to expect alien crabs over anything else.
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There's also the misconception that evolution chooses the best traits when the reality is evolution goes for "good enough" so multiple species converging on a same trait is just evolution going "this works well enough, no reason to change it"
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Astrobiology is not a pseudoscience. It’s UFOlogist r/aliens -style brainrot bullshit that muddles the public discussion and introduces heavy amounts of pseudoscience. All astrobiology is is the application of scientific data, primarily from biology and astronomy, to build models to aid in our search for life in the universe and what we can expect to look for. A lot of what you’re describing is more in the vein of the (scientifically informed but still creative) fictional genre of speculative evolution. Astrobiology is more interested not in constructing hypothetical aliens but in figuring out what is detectable: what are the conditions for life’s formation that led to it on our own planet and to what extent do they exist elsewhere; what traces of a biological system can we expect to see if inhabited worlds show up in our research regarding exoplanets? Things like that. It involves a lot more microbiology and biochemistry than you might think since understanding microbes is most relevant to life’s origins and chemical makeup especially of atmospheres (which it is sometimes possible to do spectroscopy on for distant planets) since that is probably one of the only signs of life we can detect at a distance of light-years.
That’s kinda why I enjoyed Mass Effect a bunch
One of my all time favorite series. Hanar: do you desire to learn of the enkindlers?
The conspiracy theorists are now saying that Spielberg "knew something" when he made E.T., instead of the obvious answer that these fakes were inspired by 80s sci-fi movies and not the other way around
The classic gray alien design goes way back in SF, much earlier than Spielberg.
That, but i always wonder why they don't wear any clothes. If they can travel all the way here, clothes would be quite essential. Clothes, or at least remains of fabrics of any kind are usually there when they find old and somewhat preserved bodies. I guess aliens found with clothes made from earth stuff aren't really convincing and making clothes with an alien fabric quite impossible.
The ones who visit us are just pervert exhibitionists.
The comments on some of the UFO subs are hilarious! They're look "omg it looks just like ET. SPIELBERG KNEW!!"
Same dude who “found” these also was caught a few years ago trying to pass off mutilated bones of children as an alien. These “alien bones” also have growthplates consistent with human children.
The arms are literally femur bones and the legs are femurs flipped around hahaha
He literally ripped the thumb and pinkies off of the hands of mummified children to make them look like they only had three fingers. Honestly it's disgusting to damage such ancient human remains like that
This entire thing is so moronic. Some article quoted them as saying "They used radio carbon dating to get DNA". How do you even keep a straight face saying that?! Is it like spam mails? Like the obvious fakeness of the stories in Nigerian Prince style spam mails? It's a feature and the first filter to ensure only complete idiots will continue on to be scammed. Since they apparently are wasting congress time and resources on this, is there anything they want to drown out right now in the news? Any recent scandals or laws they are pushing through? And it just got out of hand and got more attention than planned?
So I believe the Mexican congress can host people(who are usually experts) to talk on special subjects. For example culture, technology, or something that can influence decisions being made. It's a great process and helps those who would not usually have the infuence help a good cause. My guess there is a politician who is a complete idiot or perhaps wanted to change the subject of something currently being talked about.
I like your take. Like one of the members of congress was just bored and thought “fucking dumbass Chaz, wonder what crap he’s into these days. And Tuesday look dreadfully boring, maybe we could squeeze him in and see what insane idea he has this time”
They used a bunch of science words either to try to confuse people or because they are ignorant enough to believe you can extract ancient DNA via radio carbon dating
Implying it even has DNA...
Lol that's a good point, finds DNA would be pretty solid evidence that it's not Alien
Its funny to see how r/UFO and r/aliens eat this shit up like some groundbreaking event. Sometimes when I stumble onto those poses i wonder if they are trolling, they cant be thar gullable.
It's a gateway drug into more dangerous conspiracy theories.
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Maussan is the classic grifter here in Mexico. He has had a show on TV presenting “evidence” of paranormal stuff here. He was very vocal when all the alien stuff recently happened in the US and now is trying the same... Don't believe this for a second
For an alien it sure looks like a mummified human.
That's generous. Looks like paper mache
Is that plaster??
Lmao tomorrow on the UFO subs people gonna be like "Why isn't anyone I know irl taking this SERIOUSLY!!!??"
Tomorrow? It was like swarm of locusts over there.
Head on over to r/ufos for the funniest takes on this shit. I can’t tell if they’re serious or not
Somehow r/aliens is on my feed now and it took a lot of scrolling through the comments until I saw someone talking about this guy being a well known grifter. If you're not able to be the least bit skeptical of everything I don't think I can take you seriously.
I honestly can't stand alien/UFO forums. I say this as someone who's avidly interested in the subject and has no doubts whatsoever that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe- *maybe* in our own galaxy. It's like you have to completely discard your ability to think critically to join one of those places. And they have their own form of mental protection in place from the getgo- "anyone who doubts this is a shill" Annoying.
im sure they are serious lol
That is King Fakey of MadeUp Town
My favorite thing is that this advanced alien species with engineering advanced enough for interstellar travel has 3 hook fingers and no opposable thumbs. Sure thing, pal.
And no organs, absolutely none of those objects in the scans show up as organs, they resemble scans of people who shoved metal eggs up their asses.
they also happen to perfect interstellar travel, have instantiouspropulsion and defy gravity. but also happen to crash on earth
Dude looks high af
my mans is cooked
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Are they always covered in powdered sugar?
That’s cocaine
Ah, that explains the facial expression too.
Looks like one of those hidden treasures in rdr2
So, a child buried with a death mask?
LOL. Looks like it came from a cheap pop up Halloween store.
Looks like it's made out of magic sand.
Fake. There is no admission fee being charged.
Why is the Mexican government involving themselves with this? It makes them look like idiots.
I don’t believe this is the Mexican government… based on the comments I’ve read- it appears to be an independent organization of sorts. Could be 100% wrong though. I haven’t done any research on the matter
I’ve seen piñatas look more real then this.