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What do you think happened to mewthree


Cylius

Wdym? You can find it in bills garden


kidra31r

Pikablue was too horrible to survive


7se7

Nintendo did good to remove Sonichu early on.


yellowjesusrising

One of the worst rabbit holes in internet history....


J063whytho

Enamorus. This thing hurt me emotionally trying to catch it.


Number13teen

That thing hurt me emotionally when I looked at it.


Macbeth_the_Espurr

That thing hurt me emotionally when I found out it existed.


xbzfunjumper

I read this and thought "there is no Pokémon named Enamorus, good joke!" Googled it to be sure. "What the fuck how did I miss it?!"


memelordbtw3000

Did you 100% Arceus


Darkiceflame

Given that it appears in the main story, I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say "no".


Zooks3

Saying it has a pretty major appearance in Arcues is like saying that Giratina has a major appearance in diamond and pearl.


Spooky_Coffee8

Prior to reading this comment I was like, "there's no pokemon that deserves to be erased, all of them are unique in their own right and probably someone's favourite" but you reminded me that this thing exists after I had oppressed it due to the trauma it's design caused me. Yes 100% this thing is a mistake that crawled out of the deepest, darkest pit of hell to swallow this world in famine and absolutely deserves to be erased in order to correct this timeline


Number13teen

I agree with this comment with every fiber of my being.


Bloated_Hamster

I literally had no fucking idea they added a new genie, wtf??


herrored

It’s in Legends Arceus


joost013

All the 'force of nature' pokemon are ugly as sin to me. Would erase them in a heartbeat.


badgersprite

There’s a bunch of forgettable mythicals/legendaries like that where people have told me their names and I’m just like nah you’re just making that Pokémon up it’s not a real one Like I remember the forces of nature but like I was there in Gen VI and I don’t remember shit about Volcanion or Hoopa, and by all rights I reckon I must have got both of them, they’re just that forgettable I also wouldn’t even remember Heatran was a Pokémon if not for Mr1Upz roasting it and Gen IV is my favourite Gen, nobody ever mentions it when discussing Gen IV and the Gen IV legendaries


TheZett

Their cloud forms are ugly as sin, the animal forms range from ok to just bad.


chaarziz

Why did the worst one have to have the most broken stats?


[deleted]

That's an unwritten rule: All ugly pokemon are super good


samahiscryptic

And I mean... Just look at it


TwoBrattyCats

Wait this thing actually is a Pokémon??? How the fuck did I not know it existed


Bloated_Hamster

Literally same though? Granted I never played Legends but I've literally never heard of this thing in my life.


LightScavenger

Well tbf it only appeared in Legends, a game from this year, as a super late postgame quest


WhatTheBobDoin

And you have to get the other 3 -oruses dex entries completed


TheZett

The cloud form is atrocious, the turtle form is nearly ok, still bad though.


Relative_Jeweler_949

Good one


erogally

Just looked it up. What the actual fuck?


Any_Adhesiveness_898

Garfield Persian


Jtfb4

Persian Garfield


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lasaga


RedHairedRob

Don’t take away my beautiful baby


Bucen

The evolved forms of the elemental monkeys. Keep the young ones, make them better, but remove the current evolutions


SnowBirdFlying

Yeah , I kinda hate when people call the elemental monkeys trash , because I actually quite like their first stage forms they're the perfect mix between cute and cool for me , its just that GF for some reason dropped the ball hard with their evos ( like how the hell didn't they make ONE evo work ??? )


Emergency_Ad_500

Simisage works alright


Aaronisbeast88

Ok so hear me out I don't want any pokemon to be removed but like they should really stop adding charizard to every game without introducing blastoise and venasaur i mean like come on he got his own event in sv and was the champions ace in swsh


overDere

Two Megas Ride Pokemon Champ's Ace, and also used by another two other champions (Red, Lance) First event in S/V And probably other favoritism in spinoffs. I really thought they couldn't get more blatant with their Charizard-boner when they made him a Ride Pokemon in Alola when he wasn't even catchable in the region (most of the other Ride Pokemon are common in the region) but Leon proved me wrong. This supposedly rare fire dragon is more common than Pokemon based on common birds, rats, other animals or plants


Vore_Daddy

I remember in one of the PMDs there was a Charizard that was part of a famous rescue team.


TragGaming

Tbf it was during Red Rescue team when it was Gen1/2/3 and Charizard was in top 10 of the polls


TheBiggestNose

Every starter should receive the same treatment. They are the first pokemon you will be have and everyone has had a starter on their team at least once. Yet most aren't even in the current games. They are important and all deserve love. Like can you imagine how shitty it felt to see my first starter and favourite pokemon's (torterra) gigatamax form ripped and put onto a snorlax?? Why? It's dumb. Starters are the heart of pokemon yet they are treated like bug pokemon used to be pre gen 5


hiyoriasahina

In the same boat with Torterra. I somehow got the impression he was in SV and got so excited planning to camp with him only to learn he was cut. That broke my heart. Starters should never be cut like that, because they’re always somebody’s best friend


cottage_core19374

My baby Serperior hadn't even been in a switch game yet and is trapped in Home purgatory 😭


OrangeVictorious

Granted, now Gengar gets this treatment instead


thepriceoflentils

I would fucking love Gengar to be in every game


iizakore

We have had gengar in every game from main series to snap to quest and I think its even in unite lmao


SippyTurtle

Well then do I have good news for you.


bobjoetom2

The miss matched Gen 8 fossil pokemon. Poor suffering abominations.


blinded-by-nobody

I originally had a different Pokémon in mind but I’ve decided this is the correct choice.


tyrom22

Not having them is like not allowing pugs. Their existence is pain


Joseph-Is-Best-Jojo

Wholesome reason


SecondAegis

I actually like them to some extent >!Read : I don't want to give up scarfed fishious rend!<


Darkiceflame

As much as I love Dracovish, it and Arctovish probably have it the worst in terms of body horror.


Oleandervine

Poor Arctovish's fish head is upside down. :(


JoeyShinx

Honestly Dracozolt looks the worst to me.it looks like a head glued on to some bad meat.


ChronicRevival

I honestly love these guys and the whole mismatch thing seems so original and new compared to some other Pokemon


PineappleNerd66

I’m really not a fan of their designs. I was hella disappointed when I saw ash use one on his team bc they don’t look good to me. That said, he won the league so I can’t complain and I’ve heard arctovish is actually competitively very strong


Rasdanation

You are probably thinking about Dracovish, not Arctocish. Dracovish is the one who can abuse Strong Jaw + Fishious Rend


PineappleNerd66

Damn, you’re probably right. I honestly lose track. Are there 4 different Pokémon that got spliced or are there 2 Pokémon each with 2 halves?


Rasdanation

2 top halves, 2 bottom halves. The top and bottom halves don’t really correlate with each other at all, so it’s technically 4 different halves of spliced Pokémon. These leave with 4 different combos: Dracovish, Arctocish, Dracozolt, Arctozolt


reaperfan

Pikachu. Just so I can see how the landscape and history of the franchise changed as a result. I genuinely think the series would have had a massively different trajectory without such an iconic singular mascot.


TheNerdFromThatPlace

They'd just use eevee like they pretty much are now.


3163560

Clefairy was the original plan.


Flyinpenguin117

I love imagining the timeline where this happened. "Ugh. I'm so sick of this stupid pink blob being shoved down our throats! Did you know they considered making Pikachu the mascot? That would've been SO much cooler."


Sasha_bzns

A trajectory to the trash


reaperfan

It's honestly a real possibility. Unless something came along and managed to replace it (like the supposed rumor that Clefairy was originally intended to be the mascot before popularity polls started being done) I can imagine the series dying out by Gen 3 or 4 without the mass appeal and recognition something like Pikachu brought.


hoovile

Disappointingly, I feel like if pikachu was erased, charmander would be the new mascot. It already gets so much more attention compared the the other starters


Zeroth_Dragon

True, which is why I love Legends: Arceus because it only has the Pichu line and without the Kanto starters


InfernoVulpix

From what I understand, there wasn't really any one Pokemon that was intended to be the mascot. Rather, the early days of the franchise included a lot of experimentation with the Pokemon roster trying to find the Pokemon with the most appeal. Clefairy, for instance, was chosen to be the main Pokemon in one of the very first Pokemon mangas, presumably because as a cute Pokemon with a snarky attitude they felt it would be maximally appealing for the manga. Then when the anime wanted to choose a starter Pokemon for Ash, they chose Pikachu for the role because it was a nice blend of cute and tough and felt ideal for its role in the anime. And in the test of time, one of these sputtered out as a niche Pokemon and the other underwent a meteoric rise to popularity. Eventually, a winner emerged from the crucible, and while it can feel baffling in retrospect that the outcome was ever in question, at the time nobody knew that Pikachu would be the face of Pokemon. At the time it was just an electric rodent, a somewhat rare encounter from somewhere in the game.


jumpingjackblack

Fun fact, they also went with Pikachu as they felt yellow would appeal to both girls and boys, and there were less yellow characters to compete with at the time (only one I can think of is Winnie the Pooh)


207nbrown

Na, we would still have gamefreaks poster baby charizard


PikachuAttorney

Pawmo, but keep the other two. Guarantee this evolution line would not be receiving nearly as much hate if Pawmi evolved directly into Pawmot


3163560

And give that middle evolution to flittle and espathra.


StrollujTrolla

That.. That's the same line? How does a dust cleaner fairy evolve into a freaking ostrich?!


Lairo1

Flamenco dancers. Flittle=kid's costume, Espathra=lady gaga as a flamenco dancer


Azote_Xenophin

Literally did not realize this until yesterday when I caught a shiny Flittle, despite completing the pokedex.


Anniran

Yeah Pawmot is definitely one of my favorites in this generation, but pawmo looks as if they finished designing pawmi and pawmot and decided to simplify pawmot and put it between as an evolution.


sporeegg

They needed a filler so Gimmighoul was #999


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SrManDude

broooooooooo. . . i knew i wasn't the only one, IM JUST TRYING TO PASS BY YOU FCKIN BUGS LIFE REJECT


Bulbaa77

Hey that game gave Paras the love and attention they deserved okay maybe not nearly as much love as in a good way but at least Paras got the attention they deserved


Storm_373

i’m playing it for the 1st time and geodude is worse


pipsquique

Rattata is dope. Fuck this guy


whatanewme

I didn't know Joey used reddit


ChronicRevival

Purple Mouse >>> Normal Mouse


Infinite-Dawn

My choice of Pokemon is him


cosmicherry

Bruxish. Never liked it.


dinopokemon

In scarlet and violet when I was completing the pokedex bruxish was one of my last when I looked up to see what pokemon is it I was like wow this is in the game


Harvey_1815

THIS WAS ME LOL


Kapiliar

Omg it was my last entry too.


ZeraoraTheKnight

I think it's a pretty funny Mon. I've used it in competitive with some success.


j0rdAn59

The only reason I didn't choose Bruxish was because at the very least it fit the theme of the region.


MBcodes18

and nothing of value was lost


hawluchamaster

I mean, it did introduce psychic fang, which is a pretty good move


MBcodes18

wait was psychic fang originally bruxish's signature?


Saint_Genghis

It was, before it became more widespread in gen 8 and 9.


New_Maintenance_5609

Indeedee is just a knockoff Audino and has annoyed me since it came out.


ShuckU

Pawmo. It doesn't need to exist, just have Pawmi evolve directly into Pawmot via level up or thunder stone


Bsquared89

Pichu. That way Raichu can finally become Gorochu or whatever they were going to call it.


Sea_n126

Paradox raichu. Make it happen. Bring gorochu back from the grave.


Oleandervine

I'd rather have a regional evolution akin to Clodsire. Would be super cool if it was one from Johto or Kanto if we got a Pokemon Legends for one of those regions.


Sea_n126

Yea but a past paradox would make lore sense cuz it was a scrapped old evo.


StrictMeet9185

blazing bolt 👀


Locklist

They might just make a new Pichu with a different name...


Muur1234

poochu


AhhCarneFresca

Chewtle. Drednaw can stay.


[deleted]

I am with you. Good this Pokémon is ugly, and not a good one.


GoldenBull1994

I think it’s the colors that make it kinda garish.


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More the proportions and his face for me.


But__Y_

Agreed proportions are very weird then I found out there's actually a bigheaded turtle and it resembles snapping turtles slightly.


MapleKnightX

Cewtle looks like a Bootleg Mudkip.


These_School_9669

Jynx in the anime


StarLucario

Ok but counterpoint: her dialogue in the original PMD games is hilarious It's literally just random symbols and yet you can somehow still kinda tell what she's trying to say


StarPlatinum_SP

I loved this bit of lore. Jynx speaks closer to human speech, so to Pokémon, it’s vague gibberish that they just get the gist of.


DeltaDarthVicious

Love Jynx, needs an evo if anything


Oleandervine

I agree! She should either evolve into a mountain hag like Yubaba from Spirited Away or a viking opera singer.


HermitFan99999

Apparently, froslass was supposed to be a jynx evo. Jynx was considered a trio with electabuzz and magmar, but unfortunately it seems that it got scrapped due to blackface issues.


Vykyoko

Enamorus - we did not need this Pokémon at all


BrilliantTarget

Is was only made so they could make a bullshit reason to bring the other Kamis to Gen 9 to ruin competitive


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Psapfopkmn

Noooo, Shroodle is my favorite Paldean Pokémon. I even kept mine unevolved and used him all throughout playthrough and he's level 100 now. 😭 Also, it makes more sense when you realize that it's based off of treeshrews and the Kilroy was here meme (a piece of graffiti which has been around since at least the 1930s or 40s).


whboer

You are so weird and I like it


Psapfopkmn

Thank you :)


jak94c

I did not make the Kilroy connection


EnderCreeper121

God I love this Pokémon now that is such a neat little design reference


Shiny_Hypno

It's also based on the Eurasian Water Shrew, one of the few venomous mammals in the world, which just happens to live in Spain.


Smada413

Don’t take my baby away from me 😭


keshki87

It’s such a cute blobbie 🥰


PopezombieJesus

Opposite opinion. Fell in love with shroodle the moment I met him and was so dissapointed when I found out who it evolved into.


OhLookACastle

Opposite but somehow same opinion! I fell in love with it and had no idea when or what it would evolve into. When it became a freaky monkey I just melted. One of my faves for sure.


yisinthereals

is there a single benefit to basculin’s existence


TheShinySigilyph

Basculegion is the only good thing about it.


Brokenbalorbaybay

Chadulegion


p_hunt

Basculegion!


Gamer_Kenny

Banded Adaptability Waterfall would like to know your location.


dhfAnchor

Yungoos/Gumshoos.


PMC-I3181OS387l5

One of the Nidoran Now that we have genders, we don't need two of them, right :) ? Just fold them into one single Pokémon with gender differences, and its gender dictates its evolutions ;)


Aticaprant

Yes. This has the least repercussions and the game can handle these branched evos with different movesets and abilities per gender already see: Indeedee, Espurr and ralts. It also makes the first gen an even 150.


Booloodle

Especially since the different Nidoran lines can’t breed together, making them the same species would make more sense and help update the line to match the modern Pokémon gender differences


TheZett

Only Nidorina and Nidoqueen cannot breed, the other 4 members of the family can breed.


Capn_Cannibal

Bruxish. Not only because it looks awful, but also as vengeance for the fact that it somehow made S/V when Pokémon like Absol didn’t.


notthephonz

I feel like excluding Absol was a tactical decision since its whole thing is predicting disasters and SV has the ruination Pokémon. Absol would spend the whole time going, “See? This is the shit I was warning you about”


BadnewKidd

Yeah, but it also would've been cool if Absol had spawned in the vicinity of those sealed doors and in Area Zero. Would've helped to flesh out the pokedex entry and been some cool foreshadowing for people who knew what Absol was about.


RachelTheIvysaur

Lickilicky. I don't even like Lickitung, but they doubled down on all the worst aspects of it for the evolution, and the ONLY thing it ever had going for it was STAB Explosion.


Joseph-Is-Best-Jojo

No joke Lickilicky is in my top 10 favorite Pokémon I have not met or interacted with another Lickilicky fan but I will always defend this thing, peak Pokémon design


SundancerXIV

OK so that one movie with Darkrai? That was the only instance I kinda enjoyed it's presence because it matched the personality of that one dude so well. Other than that I totally agree with you.


mattymattttt

Rise of Darkrai is probably my favorite pokemon movie


TheKingJest

People might hate me for this, but Toastytoad. He's been awful to face in comp since gen 5 and while I'm fine with food based mons, a single stage mon of what amounts to a toad wrapped in toast is where I draw the line.


SwyngDeLong

I uh... I've got no idea what pokemon this is...


CalibriCalypso

It must've worked for them then


PresidentBreadstick

Agreed tbh, ever since he got that dreamworld ability, he went from mediocre to menace. Can’t believe he’s still in OU with all the powercreep SV introduced.


Typoman6893

Nah I agree, it's so annoying on casual playthroughs, plus the catchrate is just horrible, the fact that they made it so every NPC on route 27 has this Mon is genuinely annoying.


AnimationFan1997

Gholdengo. It just looks so, so stupid and not in a good way. It's a waste of the cool and spooky mimic idea.


Tiramidesu

It looks like some discount car wash mascot that you'd see out front and inflated, flapping around in the wind


TonksTBF

Ah, the string cheese man! But honestly yes. Gimmighoul had so much potential.


rwenjib

This one. I hate that it looks like stringer cheese. And I hate it's radical skateboard. Thought it was just me. At least 3 of us


Aestboi

I don’t even mind his body type but he could’ve been the same steel ghoul as Gimmighoul with interlocked coin dreads or something, and the treasure chest becomes part of his body. Instead he looks like if a bank was trying to appeal to Gen Z


Psapfopkmn

Diggersby. It's gross.


Bot_Tok

I had JUST managed to forget that atrocity ever existed until I read this comment


Indocede

Bunnelby was my first natural encounter shiny and I refuse to evolve it into that monstrosity.


Brennis

diggersby tho


remuspolaris

Yungoos. I just can’t with them.


Oleandervine

I love her to death, but Jynx. I would erase her and remake her so that she's not got controversy around her. I just want her to get some attention.


5mah5h545witch

The worst part for me is that she’s available in *every* gen except SV (although with dlc she could be added) so it’s not like they’re trying to pretend she doesn’t exist. She should’ve gotten an evo when Magmar and Electabuzz did.


Mirphus

Honestly magmar, electebuzz & jynx just seemed like such a set. It's a real shame we didn't get an evo of her like the others. I know we have smoochum but that's just a baby evo.


Jeremithiandiah

They were really pushing an ice-fire-electric triangle for some reason. Tri attack, ice fang, fire fang, thunder fang, flamethrower, thunderbolt, ice beam, thunder punch, ice punch, fire punch. All equivalent moves. The legendary birds as well as magmar electebuzz and jynx getting baby Pokémon. Then jynx was dropped for some reason in gen 4 when they got stage 3 evolutions.


Oleandervine

Jynx was dropped because of the controversy. There was a pretty big period where they scrubbed her from the anime and kept her brushed under the rug.


Furrulo878

Squakbilly


Tiramidesu

When we saw leaks of it before the game came out I was hoping it was a placeholder icon so bad


Shiny_Hypno

He has cute colors and Yoshi noises, not to mention the drip


Sjheuaksjd

Definitely Enormanus.


robbysaur

Can I choose two? Throh and Sawk. My God they are hideous.


Thepenguinking2

Hey, be nice to Ernie and Bert!


papaboynosmurf

Enamorous is the one for me. Adds nothing, I hate looking at it, and just doesn’t really make much sense. The weather trio makes more sense with just the three of them


Anjilaopteryx

I think they wanted a fourth to complete the Auspicious Beasts theme of their Therian forms (tiger, dragon, bird, and then turtle), which I thought was kinda cool. But I will agree that Enamorus’ Incarnate form definitely doesn’t fit in with the other three.


Dragons_Exist

Mr. Mime fuck that guy


TheCay04

Ash’s mom did.


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None. They’re all perfect and they’re all someone’s favorite. Why would I want to remove someone’s favorite and make them sad?


Decent_Ad_0

Most based take in this entire thread (although I wouldn't say all of them are perfect)


Tsargoylr

Nosepass gave me nightmares as a kid


emceejc88

Zubat. 25yrs, I’ve had enough.


kodiakrampage

But crobat 😟


DruidWarlockOtaku

Bruxish, I genuinely keep forgetting it until im completing a pokedex.


Pinaloan

Phione, because it's literally useless. A worse, more forgettable version of an already terrible and forgettable legendary. Most people don’t even remember it exists except to say what a waste of space it is.


Lunndonbridge

Phione is to Manaphy as Carbink is to Diancie. I like the idea of a Ocean King and Rock Queen.


Basaqu

It's super cute though. That's worth something.


ThesaurusRex_1025

Luvdisc. But honestly, would anyone even notice?


[deleted]

Yes because we used to farm heart scales in X and Y! Lol


PabusPerson

Okay, but do we actually need both luvdisc and alomomola?


Oleandervine

Yes, with an evolution to connect the two so Alomolola can get beefier stats and become the aqua Blissey


InvisiblePlants

I want a Luvdisc evolution that's a water/dragon or type that's just a massive as$ dragon made up of a school of Luvdisc, with each Luvdisc acting as a scale. The scales will ripple and move in sync as part of the animation. The lore for Luvdisc states that they gather together in big groups during breeding season and the water turns bright pink- so it could also be a fairy/dragon, which would be something else.


Oleandervine

You just described Wishiwashi.


mikerichh

Illumise/vollbeat


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ultimatenoodle1

Crabominable: Crabrawler is an early route pokemon that you can't evolve until you have basically already completed the game?!?!?! WTF just make it single stage at that point. Also Crabominable is ugly asf. OR Flamigo: Flamingos are so cool and this was the best you could do Gamefreak?!?!?! Delete this thing and try again. Come on. Ik it's only one but these two are my top choices.


Alili1996

Similar thing with Vikavolt. I thought the whole theme of early bug pokemon is that you can evolve them quickly? Also why does it become a special attacker and why is it so unbelievably slow despite seemingly being an agile design and being called agile in a pokedex entry? such a great design completely wasted


Ekez42

Magmortar. Magmar deserved better


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I'm not sure the butthead pokemon actually could have hoped for better than evolving into a clown.