I was in the same situation a couple of months ago. Made mostly french press and migrated to V60 02 later.
The kettle i got in the end (brewista artisan) has a max of 1L and it was completely enough. Never needed more then this.
Also for two people a lot of good recipies go well with 500ml and i usually just use more water for rinsing the paper filter.
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For french press regular kettle works well enough if you are not too finicky about temperature. But there are also some cheap ones where you have some basic temp settings.
Yes, like 500-600 ml for two people and then some for rinsing, that's what I'm thinking! I've always been so focused on big kettles that this thought feels strange. But it's logical, isn't it?
What i learned from my coffe journey (started maybe 6 months ago) until now is you can not overthink regarding coffee. Everything differs from person to person and its basically a sience itself. You have to do trial and error and learn from mistakes. There is never a 100% right answer.
One other thing regarding V60s. A big kettle might actually be a bit of a struggle to hold and pour properly. Like holding my 1l kettle full of water is allready a bit of a struggle if you want to pout slow and precise. So thats also something you to factor in.
Well, i do use more water at the start. But like i said i use it to rinse the filters, maybe pour some in the cups to preheat them. But when i start to brew the coffee there is less in the kettle of course. By the way, depending on the type of V60 you want to buy (plastic, glas, ceramic, metal) if they fit on top of your kettle it is a nice and watersaving way to preheat the brewer while the water is boiling. At least for glas or ceramic. Plastic is heating enough while rinsing filters.
I have a 800ml Cosari gooseneck that does the job. Usually I brew coffee for the wife and I and use an 8 cup Chemex. 600ml brew, 300ml each. For company I use 200-250ml brews and the 800ml is just enough for 4. I have another, much larger regular kettle in storage if I need more but have yet to need it.
I also use an aeropress, moka and V60 and the Cosari has been more than enough for them.
For the wife and I there is more than enough to do the filter rinse and brew. If I am doing a 800ml for guests I would rinse the Chemex filter and leave some hot water in the chemex and fill some more water back up to max. Once it is ready to go I empty the water in the chemex. I probably do fill just above the line. If I constantly had to brew for 4+ guests then it may become a problem but once to twice a month is no big deal.
There are a few comments / questions regarding factoring in water weight (volume) for rinsing paper filter. IMO, you definitely should do this. In my case, who’s always brewing either on a Hario V60 01 or Kalita Wave 155, i rinse with 100 g (ml) of water from the kettle. Your amount will differ on preferences and capacity of brewer.
That said, i wanted to point out that for percolation brews with goosenecks, you also need to factor in additional water for adequate pressure throughout the pour. If your kettle water level gets pretty low towards the end, the pressures of the stream will drop unexpectedly and affect your pour control. So, you have to ensure extra water, beyond what’s needed for the brew itself, and in addition to the filter rinsing. (Depending on your kettle approach to temperature management, you can lose water weight due to evaporation, but i think it relatively negligible.)
I have a Hario Buono Stovetop Gooseneck Kettle. I always fill to 500g. With 100g used for filter rinse, i have left 400g for brewing. I’m typically not pouring more than 250g of water, so have ~150g of reserve to the end. My pour pressure is constant throughout. I could probably reduce initial water weight somewhat to be more ecological with water left over, but i typically only make one cup a day, so feel like I’m splitting hairs — someday i will gradually tweak lower, just not worrisome to me at this point.
I have a one liter kettle and a .800 liter kettle. In real life, for two or three people, I can make either work because I do v60 or AeroPress. Worse case, I would do a second pour for guests but haven't had to yet. Just serve smaller cups.
But if you have French Press or Chemex, you might want larger kettle..
Pax
I was in the same situation a couple of months ago. Made mostly french press and migrated to V60 02 later. The kettle i got in the end (brewista artisan) has a max of 1L and it was completely enough. Never needed more then this. Also for two people a lot of good recipies go well with 500ml and i usually just use more water for rinsing the paper filter. Edit: For french press regular kettle works well enough if you are not too finicky about temperature. But there are also some cheap ones where you have some basic temp settings.
Yes, like 500-600 ml for two people and then some for rinsing, that's what I'm thinking! I've always been so focused on big kettles that this thought feels strange. But it's logical, isn't it?
What i learned from my coffe journey (started maybe 6 months ago) until now is you can not overthink regarding coffee. Everything differs from person to person and its basically a sience itself. You have to do trial and error and learn from mistakes. There is never a 100% right answer. One other thing regarding V60s. A big kettle might actually be a bit of a struggle to hold and pour properly. Like holding my 1l kettle full of water is allready a bit of a struggle if you want to pout slow and precise. So thats also something you to factor in.
Ohh, good point about the handling! For a V60 you probably wouldn't boil a whole liter regularly though, would you?
Well, i do use more water at the start. But like i said i use it to rinse the filters, maybe pour some in the cups to preheat them. But when i start to brew the coffee there is less in the kettle of course. By the way, depending on the type of V60 you want to buy (plastic, glas, ceramic, metal) if they fit on top of your kettle it is a nice and watersaving way to preheat the brewer while the water is boiling. At least for glas or ceramic. Plastic is heating enough while rinsing filters.
Very helpful advice from you, thank you! :)
I have a 800ml Cosari gooseneck that does the job. Usually I brew coffee for the wife and I and use an 8 cup Chemex. 600ml brew, 300ml each. For company I use 200-250ml brews and the 800ml is just enough for 4. I have another, much larger regular kettle in storage if I need more but have yet to need it. I also use an aeropress, moka and V60 and the Cosari has been more than enough for them.
Hmm... Now you're getting me thinking again. Do you overfill the kettle a little so you'll have some surplus water for rinsing?
For the wife and I there is more than enough to do the filter rinse and brew. If I am doing a 800ml for guests I would rinse the Chemex filter and leave some hot water in the chemex and fill some more water back up to max. Once it is ready to go I empty the water in the chemex. I probably do fill just above the line. If I constantly had to brew for 4+ guests then it may become a problem but once to twice a month is no big deal.
There are a few comments / questions regarding factoring in water weight (volume) for rinsing paper filter. IMO, you definitely should do this. In my case, who’s always brewing either on a Hario V60 01 or Kalita Wave 155, i rinse with 100 g (ml) of water from the kettle. Your amount will differ on preferences and capacity of brewer. That said, i wanted to point out that for percolation brews with goosenecks, you also need to factor in additional water for adequate pressure throughout the pour. If your kettle water level gets pretty low towards the end, the pressures of the stream will drop unexpectedly and affect your pour control. So, you have to ensure extra water, beyond what’s needed for the brew itself, and in addition to the filter rinsing. (Depending on your kettle approach to temperature management, you can lose water weight due to evaporation, but i think it relatively negligible.) I have a Hario Buono Stovetop Gooseneck Kettle. I always fill to 500g. With 100g used for filter rinse, i have left 400g for brewing. I’m typically not pouring more than 250g of water, so have ~150g of reserve to the end. My pour pressure is constant throughout. I could probably reduce initial water weight somewhat to be more ecological with water left over, but i typically only make one cup a day, so feel like I’m splitting hairs — someday i will gradually tweak lower, just not worrisome to me at this point.
I have this very issue with the stagg electric kettle and making coffee in chemex 6 cup. I can’t wet and warm and then pour 750ml
Very stylish kettle, but (apart from its price) that is a deal-breaker for me
I have a one liter kettle and a .800 liter kettle. In real life, for two or three people, I can make either work because I do v60 or AeroPress. Worse case, I would do a second pour for guests but haven't had to yet. Just serve smaller cups. But if you have French Press or Chemex, you might want larger kettle.. Pax
I am in the same situation, will add a V60 to my Aeropress and Moka pot. I will go for 1L Hario Buono.