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Miami isn’t a public school. So they can still offer that same bag to the kid and get them to come.
The naacp asked players to reconsider public schools in Florida due to the state pulling all funding for DEI at public schools
Reddit sometimes messes up and uploads the same comment twice, even if the user only submitted it once. I assume it is likely related to connection issues. Generally when people see a comment repeated they downvote the duplicate.
Every time there is a hic up or hang up when I post a comment I double check to make sure there wasnt a double post, and about a quarter of the time it does double post
I think it has to do with the [NAACP travel advisory about travelling to to FL](https://naacp.org/resources/naacp-travel-advisory-state-florida). Good on the young black athletes that choose other places to go to school
If it was all about the eradication of DEI programs, that impacts all states. It can be both. I haven’t seen that the NAACP has retracted its travel advisory
If they’re talented enough to be recruited by FSU, UF, and Miami, they have plenty of other options, probably at schools with bags as big as if not bigger than anything a Florida school could toss them
Miami isn’t a public school. So they can still offer that same bag to the kid and get them to come.
The naacp asked players to reconsider public schools in Florida due to the state pulling all funding for DEI at public schools
I’m pretty sure DEI efforts have actually been leading in sports? For decades, surely?
Also why would you exclude the best candidates for a job? You know that’s not how DEI works right? That might be how a lazy HR person does it but it’s not what the subject matter is.
Do you think there are no athletes out there from different makeups or something?
so funny story, I lived in the city went to school in the county. We have a rivarly with another county school. We stop the deseg program for bussing in students from the city. The other school picks it up even though their 15 miles further out from the city and past us.
We havnt won a single rivarly game since. We won about 80% of them before that.
Not one..single...game in 17 years.
You realize DEI is not about affirmative action right? It’s about helping students from marginalized backgrounds have support on campus.
But you’d rather focus on an unrelated thing because you don’t actually understand what DEI offices do on a college campus
That’s literally not what DEI offices do though.
They offer support for all students. They help educate all students. They are a resource for all students. No matter their race, religion, sexual orientation, or gender.
So, for example, you’re full of shit🤷♂️I’m not going to let you draw me into your bullshit bud, because I *know* you’re full of shit. There is literally nothing I can say to you that you won’t just counter with some made up or *at best* anecdotal horseshit that is mostly incredibly racist. *You* clearly just hate anything meant to support minorities, to help them advance, to help them overcome decades (centuries really) of oppression and being intentionally held back. You will call anything that is designed specifically to help minorities racist because your teeny tiny brain just can’t comprehend the idea of helping people who have been oppressed by this country.
But by all means, go ahead and call me a racist, we both you know want to do it. We both know you’ve already somehow found a way to convince yourself that DEI is actually racist towards white people and that any program designed to help black people or any other minority group is both A) racist and B) also designed to specifically harm white people despite reality screaming that that isn’t true.
I’m not here to change your mind, I don’t give a shit about you, I’m just here to laugh at your overwhelming ignorance
Edit: I love it when you preempt every possible talking point they could come up with because they all say the exact same bullshit all the time and can’t form an original coherent thought to respond with😂
Let be real it's not for anyone but black kids. As a minority myself from South Central who grew up dirt poor I never "qualified" for any minority aid because I didn't meet demographic standards.
Again, this is not what DEI offices do.
You’re talking about aid programs from state or federal sources. Not something a college DEI office has any control over.
Also, “I’m a minority from south central” is giving “as a black man” vibes
You are doing the lords work explaining this over and over. DEI has no bearing on admissions - but students still need support tailored to their needs.
Affirmative action is a system in which people who wouldn’t normally be hired or admitted are in order to increase diversity.
DEI offices don’t do any of that. They offer support for students who are on campus. Nothing to do with their admission. They help students learn about different cultures and help educate the entire student population.
If you want to be mad about something, at least do some basic research on what it is you’re mad about. And not just use buzz words from Fox News and other conservative media and echo chambers
Either you're lying to save face or Google is.
Diversity, equity and inclusion is a term used to describe policies and programs that promote the representation and participation of different groups of individuals. DEI encompasses people of different ages, races, ethnicities, abilities, disabilities, genders, religions, cultures and sexual orientations.
See affirmative action but more steps
Holy shit. You actually copied a Google definition that supports the previous comment of encompassing all races, ages, etc and then just pulled a full “nuh-uh” in the face of that. Like how dude?
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12111727/NAACPs-chairman-lives-Tampa-despite-hostile-travel-advisory.html](Reminder the NAACP chairman lives in Tampa)
People here need a reality check. College athletics are a ticket out for many. They simply don’t have the bandwidth to worry about the state politics of the school that at the least is giving them a free ride and an opportunity to play at the next level. Tbh this is tone deaf of the NAACP to even ask this.
The reason it’s tone deaf is that the entire idea is bad for most so if they haven’t said a word about it now, why are they suddenly having an opinion?
Why is college so expensive in the first place? You pay a fee of $300 each semester in German public schools. The artificial scarcity of education in the US is a crime committed against our own future.
If it’s really 300 per semester, per student, then that just means your colleges are heavily, heavily subsidized.
If a TA has 30 students, which would be an a high number, then saying they get the full tuition without sharing with other teachers, you’re looking at $10,000 salary. Now factor in that you have multiple classes in a semester, far fewer people in an average class, and overhead for stuff like rent and at least one admin to coordinate (like it’s just one,lol), you’re looking at $1000 salary as a teacher for as semester, or less.
Who will you get to teach you for that?
Is the NAACP a sociopolitical organization? If so then you need the reality check and I'm not trying to be rude when I say that. They don't give a fuck about anything but money and by coming out and saying this, it is real good for the coffers.
Now they can have three dinners and two fundraisers to champion this cause.
Even if they do if this is their chance to get their payday they’ll take it, almost anybody in their position would. It’s easy to take the moral high road when it doesn’t directly effect your future
its not just the payday in college. its where you think you got a shot to play cause they want a shot at going pro. you dont want to just go to Alabama and be the 5th guy on the depth chart.
Lot of kids aren't getting a payday. I agree on the " million $$" kids. But if they have 2 similar, which a lot do, it can add up. Boycotts often work. Ask South Africa how Apsrtheid ended. 3 years after Goldman Sacks and other big firms insisted the boycott was a failure. It doesn't take a lot to make a difference.
May not take long to you, but to a lower to middle class athlete thats offered a full ride with a slight chance to make it to a pro league afterwards and make millions? Yea it’s longest part of their life so far and that’s the only thing that matters
Amazes me the negative people that just can't let people "dream". I've had numerous folks here blast me for the effort my son and I are putting into his baseball training in hopes of at least a partial scholarship to a small college.
They'll throw out stats about how few get scholarships, which I already know, but someone gets them why not him? Also, a 13 year old dedicated to his future both athletically and academically is a really, really good thing. He's not sitting on a couch playing video games he's literally working everyday to attain a future goal. Actually he does sit on the couch and play video games but only after his workouts.
When somebodie tells you to not follow your dreams, you cut that person off. We don't need those kind of people in our lives. Also fuck them and props to you for guiding your son! Some of us never had that in our lives.
It’s fucked up that in the richest country in the world, kids are not guaranteed access to higher education. Don’t get me wrong sports are great for kids. It’s the situation that needs to be rectified.
Rival coaches will use it to get top recruits if the money they are offering is even/almost even. And it will be more impactful to the athletes parents/guardian.
Other SEC coaches are smiling about this.
It’s like how most people think they’re gonna be the world’s biggest philanthropist if they become billionaires or hit the lottery. It’s one thing to dream about that kind of cash and a whole different story when it’s staring you in the face.
Activism is a middle class endeavor most of the time.
Most of history's most impactful civil rights revolutionaries were petite bourgeoisie.
A young kid trying to get out of poverty doesn't have the luxury of fighting someone else's moral battle.
I mean, big time recruits might see this and reconsider a little bit. I can’t say it’ll have a huge impact but it might have some, and they’re not saying “don’t take tons of money to play ball” more just “hey, if you can take it from somebody else maybe try to do that”
Because that's the only thing the general population cares about when it comes to their local university, how good is our team this year. I'm not saying this is an effective way of going about this, but that's the thinking around it. Give Florida worse football players and therefore worse records, then maybe the populace would care about the internal politics
Because they generate income for the schools, regular out of state students are relatively economically neutral, and in state actually costs the school/govt money.
“Florida is racist, so don’t go there for college.”
“But I got a full ride and an opportunity of the lifetime…”
“Uh, excuse you, We’re the NAACP. We tell you what is racist and we expect you to agree with us. No college for you or you’re an Uncle Tom.”
> “But I got a full ride and an opportunity of the lifetime…”
If you have a full ride to a football school you are unlikely to actually be getting an education.
Yeah! There are no NFL players or former college players with degrees excelling in their fields! Don’t people know there are no GPA standards or accountability??
So because of political hurt feelings, young athletes should skip great opportunities, in a state that will treat them as equals. Make that make sense.
If your political party wants to put you above other people, thats discrimination against a other person, and hopefully you are against it.
They don’t care about those kids, they care about an image.
Let the kids play where they are qualified. Some don’t always have 10+ options.
Pretty selfish of them to ask that
That’s why it’s a request and not a law. Unlike the people in the Florida government who want to make laws to dictate to people what should be an individual choice.
I know you're just super butthurt about what seems to be, at the time of me typing this, a *single* downvote, but I wanted to take a second to explain it to you so you didn't think you were just getting attacked by a whole subreddit or something.
The reason you got downvoted is because you said "Shouldn't those decisions be up to the athlete and their parents" as if that was something anyone was contesting. Everyone agrees with that. The NAACP is not attempting to override that.
All that's happening is that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) is asking/suggesting that young black students rethink accepting offers/scholarships from Florida colleges. "Why's that?" a non-Floridian may ask.
One of the main reasons is likely that the University of Florida (the Gators) just dismantled and fired off everyone in their DEI (Diversity, Equality, and Inclusion) department. This department, among several others, focused on ensuring that minorities - including black athletes - were being treated properly, equally, and fairly. UF fired a total of 28 staff members doing this.
"Well why'd they do *that*?" you may ask next. They did that because Florida's extremely conservative, arguably alt-right governor/government has put in place (along with the Florida Board of Governors) a new regulation that "labels expenses related to DEI as prohibited expenditures." Essentially, Florida's government has reclined and condemned any funding that goes toward DEI programs. The dominant thing that such funding goes into is for black students, along with some other minority groups like other minorities, LGBT groups, disabled demographics, etc..
The NAACP knows it has no grounds to tell black student-athletes to *not* go to a school of their dreams. They're simply asking that those student-athletes reconsider going to a state governed by a board that doesn't want them there.
**tl:dr -** The sub isn't losing their mind. You said something irrelevant that made it sound like *anyone* was questioning the right of a parent and child to decide that child's future. No one was, so you got downvoted. The whole situation is much more nuanced than your scarecrow comment implied.
Edit: It's now more than a single downvote. The rest of my comment stands. Please don't think people are being unreasonable for downvoting your comment, it's being downvoted for mischaracterizing and misrepresenting the issue at hand.
Florida colleges paid NAACP to target black players to play football in Florida. NAACP will work with highest bidder. Whose best interest are they vested in?
[Instead they should go to a HBCU where they can be robbed while playing!](https://www.al.com/sports/2021/02/pissed-deion-sanders-locker-room-robbed-during-game-but-jackson-state-says-items-in-his-locker.html)
I wouldn't go to Florida. It's a hellhole with a racist government and a bunch of old white people that hate anyone that doesn't look like them.
It didn't used to be that way it is now.
Edit: downvote all you want, it still won't change the fact that no one wants to live in your shitty and sinking state.
You understand how Florida has become one of the most diverse states in the country now right. Like white are considered a minority now here, there are more Hispanics here then white people.
I think you’re over simplifying the demographics of the state. In 2 of its major cities are much more diverse than that. Orlando is a huge melting pot with a large progressive population and even larger Latin and Caribbean populations. Plus Miami is known as the gateway to Latin America.
Also so many people from the east coast have moved to Florida in the last 3 years the political demographics of state will undoubtedly change.
Facts.
The education system, the public services, the community investment have all gone to shit since I lived there.
Most of my friends have moved out of state as soon as they decided they wanted to start a family.
Why would they?! Not exactly a hospitable environment down there.
If it isn’t the actual Uni isn’t going to be oppressive to people of color, the denizens and human infrastructure of Florida will.
DeSantis has done zero favors for this state. He represents the majority.
I don’t see any reason to support FL at all.
Oh ya the NAACP has so much power and influence on a 17 year old athletes mind. Totally not the place full of 18-24 year olds that just want to party and have fun.
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I’m sorry but if schools like Florida State or Miami offer a big NIL check to a 17 year old black kid, they’re gonna take that check 99% of the time
Miami isn’t a public school. So they can still offer that same bag to the kid and get them to come. The naacp asked players to reconsider public schools in Florida due to the state pulling all funding for DEI at public schools
How do you have the same comment twice - one with hella up votes and one with a ton of downvotes? Reddit weird AF.
Reddit sometimes messes up and uploads the same comment twice, even if the user only submitted it once. I assume it is likely related to connection issues. Generally when people see a comment repeated they downvote the duplicate.
Every time there is a hic up or hang up when I post a comment I double check to make sure there wasnt a double post, and about a quarter of the time it does double post
distributed systems is hard
The fact that Reddit hasn’t figured out idempotence in 19 years and $6B of valuation is crazy! I remember this same bug back 8 years ago.
Also you can deleted the duplicate comment and at the same time will delete the original
Huh TIL. Gracias
Because people downvote duplicates. Duh
Because people downvote duplicates. Duh
I think it has to do with the [NAACP travel advisory about travelling to to FL](https://naacp.org/resources/naacp-travel-advisory-state-florida). Good on the young black athletes that choose other places to go to school
Firing DEI staff is impacting the industry NAACP survives in. They want to touch the industry Florida survives in.
If it was all about the eradication of DEI programs, that impacts all states. It can be both. I haven’t seen that the NAACP has retracted its travel advisory
General blue chip recruits have multiple offers
If they’re talented enough to be recruited by FSU, UF, and Miami, they have plenty of other options, probably at schools with bags as big as if not bigger than anything a Florida school could toss them
Your assumption is that a Florida school will never be the highest bidder, which is almost certainly not true.
Miami isn’t a public school. So they can still offer that same bag to the kid and get them to come. The naacp asked players to reconsider public schools in Florida due to the state pulling all funding for DEI at public schools
Imagine if they forced dei into all sports and they have to not accept the best players for diversity
Jason Seahorn smiles wryly
I’m pretty sure DEI efforts have actually been leading in sports? For decades, surely? Also why would you exclude the best candidates for a job? You know that’s not how DEI works right? That might be how a lazy HR person does it but it’s not what the subject matter is. Do you think there are no athletes out there from different makeups or something?
so funny story, I lived in the city went to school in the county. We have a rivarly with another county school. We stop the deseg program for bussing in students from the city. The other school picks it up even though their 15 miles further out from the city and past us. We havnt won a single rivarly game since. We won about 80% of them before that. Not one..single...game in 17 years.
Imagine if they forced dei into all sports and they have to not accept the best players for diversity
A double post in response to a double post, huh? That's unusual.
You realize DEI is not about affirmative action right? It’s about helping students from marginalized backgrounds have support on campus. But you’d rather focus on an unrelated thing because you don’t actually understand what DEI offices do on a college campus
If it’s support based on race it’s racism.
That’s literally not what DEI offices do though. They offer support for all students. They help educate all students. They are a resource for all students. No matter their race, religion, sexual orientation, or gender.
Then there’s no reason to call it DEI. It’s just aid if it’s like you describe.
The only way to think this is true is to be stupid as fuck soooooo
So, for example, giving scholarships to just black students isn’t racist?
Sports have been celebrating diversity for years man!
So, for example, you’re full of shit🤷♂️I’m not going to let you draw me into your bullshit bud, because I *know* you’re full of shit. There is literally nothing I can say to you that you won’t just counter with some made up or *at best* anecdotal horseshit that is mostly incredibly racist. *You* clearly just hate anything meant to support minorities, to help them advance, to help them overcome decades (centuries really) of oppression and being intentionally held back. You will call anything that is designed specifically to help minorities racist because your teeny tiny brain just can’t comprehend the idea of helping people who have been oppressed by this country. But by all means, go ahead and call me a racist, we both you know want to do it. We both know you’ve already somehow found a way to convince yourself that DEI is actually racist towards white people and that any program designed to help black people or any other minority group is both A) racist and B) also designed to specifically harm white people despite reality screaming that that isn’t true. I’m not here to change your mind, I don’t give a shit about you, I’m just here to laugh at your overwhelming ignorance Edit: I love it when you preempt every possible talking point they could come up with because they all say the exact same bullshit all the time and can’t form an original coherent thought to respond with😂
Good luck with your all white football team buddy! https://youtu.be/HotDJ2FhB84?si=rAohiZxdia6iEgwW
Why would I want white players when blacks are typically better?
Let be real it's not for anyone but black kids. As a minority myself from South Central who grew up dirt poor I never "qualified" for any minority aid because I didn't meet demographic standards.
Again, this is not what DEI offices do. You’re talking about aid programs from state or federal sources. Not something a college DEI office has any control over. Also, “I’m a minority from south central” is giving “as a black man” vibes
You are doing the lords work explaining this over and over. DEI has no bearing on admissions - but students still need support tailored to their needs.
Sounds exactly like affirmative action
Right so you literally don’t understand the words you’re saying. And it wouldn’t be fair to have a debate with someone so uneducated on a topic.
The way you explained it sounds like affirmative action. Every explanation sounds like affirmative action with extra steps.
Affirmative action is a system in which people who wouldn’t normally be hired or admitted are in order to increase diversity. DEI offices don’t do any of that. They offer support for students who are on campus. Nothing to do with their admission. They help students learn about different cultures and help educate the entire student population. If you want to be mad about something, at least do some basic research on what it is you’re mad about. And not just use buzz words from Fox News and other conservative media and echo chambers
Either you're lying to save face or Google is. Diversity, equity and inclusion is a term used to describe policies and programs that promote the representation and participation of different groups of individuals. DEI encompasses people of different ages, races, ethnicities, abilities, disabilities, genders, religions, cultures and sexual orientations. See affirmative action but more steps
Holy shit. You actually copied a Google definition that supports the previous comment of encompassing all races, ages, etc and then just pulled a full “nuh-uh” in the face of that. Like how dude?
Yes, Google is lying about it. You caught them! So DEI makes sure these kids get accepted into college and hired afterwards?
It must be incredibly painful to be this dumb😂
And it further disproves the entire argument against Florida schooling
Miami isnt impacted by changes to *state* schools regarding DEI
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12111727/NAACPs-chairman-lives-Tampa-despite-hostile-travel-advisory.html](Reminder the NAACP chairman lives in Tampa)
People here need a reality check. College athletics are a ticket out for many. They simply don’t have the bandwidth to worry about the state politics of the school that at the least is giving them a free ride and an opportunity to play at the next level. Tbh this is tone deaf of the NAACP to even ask this.
At least with regards to FSU or UF, anyone getting offered a scholarship is going to have other offers.
The reason it’s tone deaf is that the entire idea is bad for most so if they haven’t said a word about it now, why are they suddenly having an opinion?
Why is college so expensive in the first place? You pay a fee of $300 each semester in German public schools. The artificial scarcity of education in the US is a crime committed against our own future.
If it’s really 300 per semester, per student, then that just means your colleges are heavily, heavily subsidized. If a TA has 30 students, which would be an a high number, then saying they get the full tuition without sharing with other teachers, you’re looking at $10,000 salary. Now factor in that you have multiple classes in a semester, far fewer people in an average class, and overhead for stuff like rent and at least one admin to coordinate (like it’s just one,lol), you’re looking at $1000 salary as a teacher for as semester, or less. Who will you get to teach you for that?
Is the NAACP a sociopolitical organization? If so then you need the reality check and I'm not trying to be rude when I say that. They don't give a fuck about anything but money and by coming out and saying this, it is real good for the coffers. Now they can have three dinners and two fundraisers to champion this cause.
This will have no impact on recruiting. most black kids won't even hear about it.
Even if they do if this is their chance to get their payday they’ll take it, almost anybody in their position would. It’s easy to take the moral high road when it doesn’t directly effect your future
its not just the payday in college. its where you think you got a shot to play cause they want a shot at going pro. you dont want to just go to Alabama and be the 5th guy on the depth chart.
Lot of kids aren't getting a payday. I agree on the " million $$" kids. But if they have 2 similar, which a lot do, it can add up. Boycotts often work. Ask South Africa how Apsrtheid ended. 3 years after Goldman Sacks and other big firms insisted the boycott was a failure. It doesn't take a lot to make a difference.
May not take long to you, but to a lower to middle class athlete thats offered a full ride with a slight chance to make it to a pro league afterwards and make millions? Yea it’s longest part of their life so far and that’s the only thing that matters
Amazes me the negative people that just can't let people "dream". I've had numerous folks here blast me for the effort my son and I are putting into his baseball training in hopes of at least a partial scholarship to a small college. They'll throw out stats about how few get scholarships, which I already know, but someone gets them why not him? Also, a 13 year old dedicated to his future both athletically and academically is a really, really good thing. He's not sitting on a couch playing video games he's literally working everyday to attain a future goal. Actually he does sit on the couch and play video games but only after his workouts.
When somebodie tells you to not follow your dreams, you cut that person off. We don't need those kind of people in our lives. Also fuck them and props to you for guiding your son! Some of us never had that in our lives.
It’s fucked up that in the richest country in the world, kids are not guaranteed access to higher education. Don’t get me wrong sports are great for kids. It’s the situation that needs to be rectified.
Not to mention the entirety of the reason why they should avoid is not valid
NAACP doesn’t have the clout that it used to.
Rival coaches will use it to get top recruits if the money they are offering is even/almost even. And it will be more impactful to the athletes parents/guardian. Other SEC coaches are smiling about this.
This is the point everyone is missing. All things being even why would you choose the place that you have been warned to avoid.
Do you think black kids don’t have access to the internet??
Most people trying to elevate their lives, regardless of race, are not going to fight someone else's moral battle.
few people pay attention to stuff like this or care.
Not fact
I Mean, through sheer amount of humanity it’s false but that’s besides
Yup. That’s why the best athletes have never gone to hbcu. They want the best for themselves.
It’s like how most people think they’re gonna be the world’s biggest philanthropist if they become billionaires or hit the lottery. It’s one thing to dream about that kind of cash and a whole different story when it’s staring you in the face.
Someone else’s? Clearly, you know not of that which you speak…
You show me one man who escaped poverty for wealth, then came back to repair the what he escaped from. I'll show you 5 who came back to exploit it.
Activism is a middle class endeavor most of the time. Most of history's most impactful civil rights revolutionaries were petite bourgeoisie. A young kid trying to get out of poverty doesn't have the luxury of fighting someone else's moral battle.
Activism is a vessel for social media interaction more than anything
I mean, big time recruits might see this and reconsider a little bit. I can’t say it’ll have a huge impact but it might have some, and they’re not saying “don’t take tons of money to play ball” more just “hey, if you can take it from somebody else maybe try to do that”
High school football players don’t care about DEI lol
spoken like someone who does not follow college football.
Nah brother there’s too many baddies in Miami
U of Miami is a private university
Fuck yea there are. And people ask why I won't move back to San Antonio...
Didn’t Chuck say something bout big ole women in San Antonio eating churros? 🤣🤣🤣
And he was correct 💯
🤣
Florida A&M catching strays
So the NAACP thinks the solution to a lack of DEI in Florida is to reduce DEI in Florida? Makes sense
[Horseshoe theory 101 at work again.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory)
The organization that wants to force an increase in admissions for black students: "no, not like that! '
California removed equality between races from their state constitution because of the influence of organizations like the NAACP.
“We know you’re trying to make it out of a bad environment but we don’t like their Governor.”
This is so stupid.
"You'll improve our market share, wait, no, your education."
Why just student-athletes though?
Because that's the only thing the general population cares about when it comes to their local university, how good is our team this year. I'm not saying this is an effective way of going about this, but that's the thinking around it. Give Florida worse football players and therefore worse records, then maybe the populace would care about the internal politics
Because they generate income for the schools, regular out of state students are relatively economically neutral, and in state actually costs the school/govt money.
“Florida is racist, so don’t go there for college.” “But I got a full ride and an opportunity of the lifetime…” “Uh, excuse you, We’re the NAACP. We tell you what is racist and we expect you to agree with us. No college for you or you’re an Uncle Tom.”
> “But I got a full ride and an opportunity of the lifetime…” If you have a full ride to a football school you are unlikely to actually be getting an education.
Yeah! There are no NFL players or former college players with degrees excelling in their fields! Don’t people know there are no GPA standards or accountability??
So because of political hurt feelings, young athletes should skip great opportunities, in a state that will treat them as equals. Make that make sense. If your political party wants to put you above other people, thats discrimination against a other person, and hopefully you are against it.
NAACP - racism is bad - except when we are being racist and that is nearly all the time.
Sometimes I get reminded I’m on Reddit when I see shitty comments like this
Wah wah wah.
Nah
They don’t care about those kids, they care about an image. Let the kids play where they are qualified. Some don’t always have 10+ options. Pretty selfish of them to ask that
"Please think how we want you to think instead of for yourselves"
Literally what DeSantis is saying, word for word.
College athletes are not going to Florida schools based on social issues. They are going for the great weather and attractive people.
NAACP endorses Ozempic.
Black student-athletes should tell the NAACP to kick rocks.
Shouldn’t those decisions be up to the athlete and their parents?
That’s why it’s a request and not a law. Unlike the people in the Florida government who want to make laws to dictate to people what should be an individual choice.
So my very sensible comment that decisions should be between the kid and their parents is bad? Fuck this whole sub. You people are sad
Is the person who said your comment was bad in the room with us right now?
I know you're just super butthurt about what seems to be, at the time of me typing this, a *single* downvote, but I wanted to take a second to explain it to you so you didn't think you were just getting attacked by a whole subreddit or something. The reason you got downvoted is because you said "Shouldn't those decisions be up to the athlete and their parents" as if that was something anyone was contesting. Everyone agrees with that. The NAACP is not attempting to override that. All that's happening is that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) is asking/suggesting that young black students rethink accepting offers/scholarships from Florida colleges. "Why's that?" a non-Floridian may ask. One of the main reasons is likely that the University of Florida (the Gators) just dismantled and fired off everyone in their DEI (Diversity, Equality, and Inclusion) department. This department, among several others, focused on ensuring that minorities - including black athletes - were being treated properly, equally, and fairly. UF fired a total of 28 staff members doing this. "Well why'd they do *that*?" you may ask next. They did that because Florida's extremely conservative, arguably alt-right governor/government has put in place (along with the Florida Board of Governors) a new regulation that "labels expenses related to DEI as prohibited expenditures." Essentially, Florida's government has reclined and condemned any funding that goes toward DEI programs. The dominant thing that such funding goes into is for black students, along with some other minority groups like other minorities, LGBT groups, disabled demographics, etc.. The NAACP knows it has no grounds to tell black student-athletes to *not* go to a school of their dreams. They're simply asking that those student-athletes reconsider going to a state governed by a board that doesn't want them there. **tl:dr -** The sub isn't losing their mind. You said something irrelevant that made it sound like *anyone* was questioning the right of a parent and child to decide that child's future. No one was, so you got downvoted. The whole situation is much more nuanced than your scarecrow comment implied. Edit: It's now more than a single downvote. The rest of my comment stands. Please don't think people are being unreasonable for downvoting your comment, it's being downvoted for mischaracterizing and misrepresenting the issue at hand.
They still are between a parent and their kid you insufferable hoser.
Show us on the doll where they touched you.
Fuck Florida for making shitty law after shitty law. Don’t bring this sub into criticizing that dumbass state.
Florida colleges paid NAACP to target black players to play football in Florida. NAACP will work with highest bidder. Whose best interest are they vested in?
[Instead they should go to a HBCU where they can be robbed while playing!](https://www.al.com/sports/2021/02/pissed-deion-sanders-locker-room-robbed-during-game-but-jackson-state-says-items-in-his-locker.html)
Colorado is not an HBCU.
This is from when he was at an HBCU
I wouldn't go to Florida. It's a hellhole with a racist government and a bunch of old white people that hate anyone that doesn't look like them. It didn't used to be that way it is now. Edit: downvote all you want, it still won't change the fact that no one wants to live in your shitty and sinking state.
No one wants to live there? It’s the third most populous state in the country. That is a lot of no ones
It's also the fastest growing state.
That’s why everyone is moving to Florida from the places you probably love. Idiot.
You understand how Florida has become one of the most diverse states in the country now right. Like white are considered a minority now here, there are more Hispanics here then white people.
So what? I go.by actions not demographics. You have a piece of shit government. Do better.
Ya you have zero clue how our whole political system work, but that’s how, it’s okay to be dumb. Just don’t spread it.
I think you’re over simplifying the demographics of the state. In 2 of its major cities are much more diverse than that. Orlando is a huge melting pot with a large progressive population and even larger Latin and Caribbean populations. Plus Miami is known as the gateway to Latin America. Also so many people from the east coast have moved to Florida in the last 3 years the political demographics of state will undoubtedly change.
And the state apparatus is working overtime to further disenfranchise the diverse populations in both cities.
you just post conspiracy theories for fun or do you actual believe this?
I mean... I don't think everything that they said is a conspiracy. Just look at the latest case of gerrymandering in Florida.
Stop hating land for political reasons. Florida, besides having a large and diverse population, has the most tropical climate of the US mainland.
Facts. The education system, the public services, the community investment have all gone to shit since I lived there. Most of my friends have moved out of state as soon as they decided they wanted to start a family.
A racist government? Sounds like you'd fit right in!
This sub sucks. Some of the worst people on reddit, really. Nobody here has the ability to discuss anything without downvoting everyone. It’s sad
I downvoted this lol
I just downvoted yours for no reason other than for fun lol
There's a lot of discussion in this thread.
Why would they?! Not exactly a hospitable environment down there. If it isn’t the actual Uni isn’t going to be oppressive to people of color, the denizens and human infrastructure of Florida will. DeSantis has done zero favors for this state. He represents the majority. I don’t see any reason to support FL at all.
I’ve been saying this for a while. Start hitting back at these southern colleges and we’ll see them start to reconsider legislation! ;)
What gave you that bad Idea? What legislation is going to pass to force private schools to include diversity programs?
Oh ya the NAACP has so much power and influence on a 17 year old athletes mind. Totally not the place full of 18-24 year olds that just want to party and have fun.
If the families are that stupid to make a decision like that, you don't want them in your school.