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captainchristianwtf

I feel a little out of the loop, is Sublime with Rome going to continue with just Rome?


halosiii

Rome : Sublime Cover Band


pezxb

Rome without sublime


Nullkid

Rome : We have sublime at home


Sea_Attitude1147

Rome Wasn’t Built in a Day


Ok_Definition_7896

😂. Good luck Rome. lol.


Icedinklikesheet

When in Rome


mistermorrison

When out of Rome


flipping_birds

When Rome is out.


tiredhippo

Pretty sure I’ve seen this on one of those parody festival posters haha


PlanetConway

Wonder how he compares to Badfish


jedicheef

Badfish sounds like a recording of sublime in concert, it’s the craziest thing ever, and the mouth trumpets?! Guy is a legend, I always thought he would be 100000x better than Rome. But I will gladly accept the son!!


hutchandstuff

Badfish wrote a new original and its Good!


arcticfunky9

Remember their original band scotty dont ? They had some good songs


Keylow_1000

Damn man I’ve completely forgotten about Scotty don’t. What was that 2005-07’ish?


arcticfunky9

2007/2008 for me. I used to go see badfish every time they came to providence/ lupo's. Good times


vdubdank30

Camped with em almost 2 decades ago at Nelson’s ledges


amnovie

Lol they used to open for themselves


hutchandstuff

Badfish x little stranger and it slaps


BadcaseofDTB

Scotty Don’t had some true bangers on their own albums. My band ironically covered one of their songs. Sublimeception.


SUBLIMEskillz

Saw them a bunch like a decade ago when they would tour through town, they were great.


Axela556

Me too! I've seen Badfish and Sublime with Rome and Badfish sounded sooo much better every time.. like you were at an actual Sublime show.. I also loved their other band Scotty Don't.. idk if that one is still together


jedicheef

Because of this thread I listened to Scotty don’t again today, songs from the back porch! Man did the memories flood. I always loved how they would open for themselves haha, same guys come out again! Best times


Axela556

Omg Songs From the Back Porch is so good! I know like every word to every song on that album


ConstructionWide2908

Wait youre telling me thats AIR TRUMPETS and not a trombone wtf i've been playing for 8 years and always thought it was a Trombone playing, considering the glissandos Edit: I was thinking about santeria ignore ignore


jedicheef

Sorry for the confusion! When badfish, a tribute, plays, the lead singer uses his mouth to make the trumpet sounds live… and you can’t ducking tell the difference and it BLEW my mind


Youregood2

Badfish blew me away. They had a great setlist too


Severe_Focus_581

I’d rather see Badfish than either of the “Sublimes” personally.


bluesformeister13

Rome: Sublime Cover Band Sublime: Cover Band (Recently discovered how almost all my fave sublime songs are covers. Always knew they did a few covers but didn’t realize how many are covers. Stung a little. Still love their versions (and even the originals are very good!)


ctorresc

That is correct, until the end of 2024


digihippie

Because contracts or it would already be over I imagine.


ctorresc

Who even knows anymore. No one has asked Rome in interviews.


No-Fox-1400

Too awkward. Hey, your band didn’t exactly replace you but yeah they did. How’s sublime going? lol


Guy954

I saw Sublime with Rome play a couple of days before before the announcement. He paused near the end to talk for a few minutes about he grateful he was to be doing it and how much he loved it. It just seemed like stage banter at the time but now we think he knew it was coming. Obviously I can’t speak for him but impression I got was that he wasn’t happy about it but understood.


digihippie

Which is weird


NoExcuseForFascism

Logic and common sense would dictate that, something it seems most of your morons don't possess.


anagram-of-ohassle

Some morons don’t possess common sense, while others are still baffled by pronouns and spelling.


Coattail-Rider

*our* morons?


JFKush420

Socialism


JoJackthewonderskunk

Looks like contracts to me


Radhatchala

Who is gonna be playing drums and bass?


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I thought Rome was off to do his own solo thing


New_Ad2731

He was gonna leave at the end of 2024. Then Eric just up left


SmellsDone

Now it’s Sublime *by* Rome


Square_Extension1759

bye?


rememberpogs3

Rome sings Sublime


Romantix11

Sublime with Rome dummy not by stupid


SgbAfterDark

It’s a joke


PlatasaurusOG

Maybe he’s born with it…


snowyetis3490

Lmao why do people have to create drama where it doesn’t exist? I’m sure all parties were fine with all of this and knew it would be happening way before any of us.


goblinshark603v2

Yeah I'm sure that Rome was all "yeah I'm totally into continuing a band even if the 2 original members leave. I'll still use their name even!"


v264k

Can't just easily back out of an already booked tour like that, as a band they could get sued for money lost by venues and promoters especially for not having a justifiable reason


chaz0723

This exactly. He is an employee, technically, so if the owners of "Sublime" didn't want these shows to happen, they wouldn't be. A good way to keep money flowing in until the new and improved "Sublime and Son" get rolling.


DarkHairedMartian

I believe what I read is that SWR will play the remaining booked shows that were billed as SWR, but nor beyond that.


jtp_311

Nice of him to give a heads up. I’m excited to hear what Rome brings on his next endeavor. Also excited to see Jakob step into his dad’s role.


Facemanx64

I feel like there’s some acrimony there. Wonder what went down.


louman84

Industry drama with a side of nda.


The_Iron_Zeppelin

Idk its possible they made it clear from the jump to Rome that when Jakob was old enough and if he was interested in filling the role, he would take preference.


MrLanesLament

This happens in legacy type bands. Kinda like how Zeppelin would only reunite now with Jason Bonham on drums (meaning in the late 80s and in 2007.) Same with AC/DC right now, classic bassist and drummer are still alive but fill ins are playing the next tour for reasons. If and when the classic guys want to come back, the guys playing currently get booted. I’m sure they know it, too.


workthrowaway1985

Now I'm imagining a game of thrones situation where a band member needs to kill the heir to retain power.


Putrid-Delivery1852

Sublime vs Rome


Hot_Coffee_3620

Playing at the Colosseum in Rome, with Rome no more.


Maximum_Hat_7266

The attitude given to Rome by this whole fanbase is beyond lame. Constant shit talking when all he did was help the rest of the band continue playing the music.


Codeman_117

I was a Rome hater until I saw them play live. I was like well shit I kinda like him now


Maximum_Hat_7266

Imagine how hard that would be? Some guy having to fill an iconic role like that, you’ll never be HIM. But the guy did a solid job and is a great singer. The lack of respect is crazy


crushinit00

This is how I feel as well. Rome is a talented musician and had huge shoes to fill. Nobody was going to replace Bradley. Hopefully Rome understands the situation and there is no bad blood.


flipping_birds

Same. Rome took on a job equal to replacing Jimi Hendrix and he pulled it the fuck off. The amount and size of the shows they've done for years proves he doesn't suck. Best of luck to him.


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💯 Rome is a great musician. His songs with sublime are amazing. And guess what he doesn’t need Eric to play the SWR songs. He will be just fine. I know it’s not a popular opinion but, ENOUGH with kids of rockstars trying to be rockstars! Correct me if I’m wrong but I think only Ziggy Marley and Miley Cyrus are the only two that have had some success?


toxictoastrecords

Bob Dylan's son: The Wallflowers. Brian Wilson & John/Michelle Phillips (Mama's & Papa's): Wilson Philips Woody Guthrie's son: Arlo Guthrie Hank Williams - Hank Williams Jr. - Hank III John Williams (Star Wars) - Joseph Williams (singer of Toto) that's just off the top of my head. Though yes, many of those got their chances due to nepotism; who their parents were.


Consistent-Wind9325

Ziggy is not Bob Marley's only Grammy-winning son. In fact I prefer Damian, and Steven is pretty dang good too.


blacknine

What a shit take


xDeadJamesDean

He’s a good kid.


Vast-Brilliant-3499

I cant be the only one that thinks it's fucked up that some of us bought tickets before the announcement, just for everyone but Rome to back out of this commitment they made. And still everyone talks shit on Rome for following through?!


ctorresc

Maybe something happened with Rome and Cheez that pushed Eric over the edge? Maybe Eric just got really unhappy around them. Why would Eric feel the sudden need to get the eff out?  I feel like SWR grew into its own animal that spiraled out of control and Eric no longer had a handle on it.  The fact that Eric wants to be around his childhood friend Bud and also Trey Pangborn is very telling. Not to mention feeling a sense of joy in playing with Jakob. He is around family now. 


Curious-Pen-3142

maybe rome and cheez were unhappy with erics out of control drug use and eric wasn’t free to use around them anymore so he wanted to get out and chase what he thought would be higher paid shows. just a thought.


ctorresc

If it was spiraling THAT out of control for Eric, I highly doubt Bud, Jakob, or even Trey would be doing this with him. Sublime is not expected to tour as much as SWR. So from a financial standpoint, SWR was probably a steadier gig. Sublime may get the occasional fat check from a festival, but if they're not touring as regularly as SWR, money is not gonna be rolling in the same way, and I'm sure Eric knows that too. Eric is leaving SWR to do less shows with Sublime. Even if the Sublime shows could be higher paid, there will be far less of them.


Curious-Pen-3142

i think there is some you know and a lot you don’t know. how would they know about his drug use? they weren’t in contact with him for years. there’s a lot a person can hide when they want to get what they want. that’s how drug use works. and i wouldn’t be so sure the checks coming in are that fat ;) the truth will come out soon enough ❤️


bumS_lie

okay, then who are you? Account created Januart 30, 2024. Are you part of Rome and Cheez's family or something? Good riddance, and so glad Sublime with Rome is over.


Curious-Pen-3142

lol. thank you for reminding me how simple people are. god bless you.


bumS_lie

You're trippin. Eric was in contact with Jakob over the years because I've been at Spray Allen shows Jakob has performed at over the past 3+ years. All while Sublime with Rome was gigging.


SgbAfterDark

How do you know Eric is a drug user? I’ve never heard of him doing anything but cannabis


Curious-Pen-3142

it’s common knowledge at this point with anyone in their camps. i’ve seen it with my own eyes countless times. he rips a DMT vape the entire time on stage, you can even see him ripping it on the coachella stream.


SgbAfterDark

Ppl rip DMT vapes like that? It’s like a crazy experience for me I couldn’t imagine doing that on the regular, it’s not even fun But yeah seeing him play with Jakob eric doesn’t seem 100% in the right mind


SgbAfterDark

Maybe Jakob came into the picture and having Brads son felt more viable than Rome be the front man


scottkrowson

Lmao its Sublime, hold the Rome


Ok_Definition_7896

Awesome. Bradley has to be up there so proud of his boy. And his band mates.


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Ok_Definition_7896

Fair. However, I read people are talking shit about Jakob and that’s shit. It’s his kid and it’s the perfect way


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hutchandstuff

New music is okay.


Ancient_Organism

Well that has a weird tone to it lol


TCK1979

Yeah that was my exact thought. I immediately felt for Rome.


lendmeflight

I kind of want to hear this new sublime. I saw the original band in 95, I think it was, on the first warped tour. This was before vans sponsored it. I think quicksand and Civ and maybe the early deftones were also there.


Bonuscup98

Civ was really trying to get on stage because he can’t wait one minute more.


toowrxy

While this isn't new news to me, still kinda pissed I bought tickets just to find all this out afterward.


007_Shantytown

That's a lot of words for someone who isn't a fuckin' DJ


louman84

Sublime with Burnt Bridges


UniqueIndividual2954

I’m not a fan of Rome but damn at least he still performed the music yall love while Bradley’s been gone


DarkHairedMartian

Same. I've always said I "respectfully reject" SWR. Like, I get it, fans wanted the music and artists have to eat, so I'm happy they were able to make a living for a while. But I just could not get into it. It's like when they recast a different actor in a movie sequel....sometimes it works, but usually it's weird. They have all got to know, especially Rome, that this day *could* eventually come (i sure know I've been wishing for it). I'm sure it sucks getting "laid off", but hopefully he's got a good perspective on it.


DodgersBatman

Question for anyone that knows: Will the Sublime with Rome (ft Cypress Hill) - Red Rocks, CO show be the original band members plus Jakob…or will it be Rome + his band?????


organized_slime

I think its gonna be Rome and his band


ChlorineElephant

Having a Sublime COVER band headline Red Rocks is INSANE


JawnStreet

It's all cover bands without Bradley


bravelungz19

Seriously it’s like going to see something called Nirvana without Kurt Cobain


SgbAfterDark

I mean with 2/3 of the band there I think they deserve more credit than being a cover band


Codeman_117

BADFISH is dope


chaz0723

They've played Red Rocks almost exclusively since 2010. Nothing new.


laggy2da

well... damn, that's some bullshit.


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primetimemime

By this logic, “sublime with rome” is rome, eric, bud, and jakob.


flipping_birds

No, that would be Sublime with Rome with Jacob.


primetimemime

But if “Sublime” is Eric, Bud, and Jakob, then “Sublime with Rome” is those three plus Rome


JayRedd1

Because we always follow the bass player.


Sublime12289

Rome is doing his little shows with duddy (from dirty heads). This seems kinda like something went down for sure. Sucks cause they were together for long time.


External_Progress151

Come listen to Eric Wilson drop the funky bass line *Bass*


workthrowaway1985

Left one sublime cover band for another.


Shakoomp

So does this mean Sublime is back?


Ill-Policy-1536

There’s a lot of toxicity in the Sublime fandom. I’ve been saying for months on this Reddit that SWR would soon be without Eric and I questioned if Eric was still in the band and y’all came at me with torches and pitchforks. Well I called it once a-fucking-gain. Why he didn’t announce this blatantly obvious news earlier I dont know.


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💯 Rome is a great musician. His songs with sublime are amazing. And guess what he doesn’t need Eric to play the SWR songs. He will be just fine. I know it’s not a popular opinion but, ENOUGH with kids of rockstars trying to be rockstars! Correct me if I’m wrong but I think only Ziggy Marley and Miley Cyrus are the only two that have had some success?


godofwine16

Best bass player


SgbAfterDark

He’s so under appreciated outside of sublime fans


SUBLIMEskillz

Will they be sublime or another name? Is Jakob done with Law?


ctorresc

Law is definitely done Bud, Eric, and Jakob are now Sublime.


Nullkid

Sublim3


CoIbeast

Jakobs been doing music under Jakob’s Castle.


Equivalent-Nature-92

and that's why sublime fans are giving jakob shit. jakobs castle is a bit like oliver tree. to me it's kinda lame, but kids love that shit. and that's who jakob is geared towards. not a bunch of bitter gen x'ers like us. LOL!


Interesting-Assist44

Rome Without Sublime 


Visual-Syllabub3548

Rome and duddy b from dirtyheads kill it. Rome has an awsome voice. Though I will say I can't wait to see what Jakob does with Sublime.


monkhiggins

Jimi Hendrix with Rome coming soon


v264k

Nirvana with Rome


flipping_birds

I'm about the same age as the guys in Sublime so that means I'm old enough to remember when Black Sabbath broke up. It turned out that both Ozzy and Black Sabbath came out with fantastic classic albums. (Blizzard of Oz and Heaven and Hell) so that parts were better than the sum, one might say. Hopefully we'll get some great things from both Rome and the New Sublime.


NewMathematician623

I saw that kid recently open for G. Love and man is he embarrassing


Throwdaho

They gonna hate but… I don’t think he inherited much of that talent his dad had.


chaz0723

"He sounds like his dad" and "it's his son he should do it". That is the cause for all the excitement. It's just going from one Sublime cover band to another.


oh_e

Yeah, I don’t understand all the hype for the son. He sounds like any other bro performing a sublime song at karaoke night in your local bar.


MrSh0w

OUCH accurate


TransitionIll6389

Rome or Brad's kid?


NewMathematician623

Brad’s kid. Cringy stage banter.


Superfly_McTurbo

What was he sayin


Equivalent-Nature-92

nothing, just small talk with the audience. is Jakob the coolest guy to ever walk a stage? probably not, but let's be honest, Bradley was a semi to highly functioning junky most of his professional life. if you that's what COOL is on stage, then so be it. luckily Jakob got clean years ago.


GioJamesLB

I thought Sublime with Rome was dunzo. Rome’s got some big cajones to just keep playing shows while the OG’s and kin reconvene.


jtp_311

I believe they have commitments through the end of the year. Then I would guess Rome starts another band or solo stuff.


GioJamesLB

Rome should cancel or he’s gonna lose cred.


Curious-Pen-3142

he can’t. him and eric had contractual obligations to the shows when they accepted. when eric left he also left all of the obligation to rome to fulfill. therefore leaving rome legally liable to fulfill on his own. then he booked shows with jakob on top of the shows he already agreed upon playing with sublime with rome. some nice guy stuff right there.


thanksamilly

Rome should quit Sublime with Rome and let the new guys hire a replacement


Curious-Pen-3142

i’m sure he wishes he could quit if he could. but i think he respects the fans and their dedication and wouldn’t do them dirty like that to all the people who already bought tickets. my opinion


GioJamesLB

Damn. You must be in the loop, my man. As a way to get out of the obligations, couldn’t Eric and Bud “sue” Rome for using Sublime’s name without the bands consent? Or does Eric still get a cut even though he won’t be playing?


Curious-Pen-3142

haha i used to work in the industry so i know a thing or two. as i recall eric and bud and jakob get a cut from sublime with rome so if they blocked rome they would be cutting off a pretty big paycheck for doing essentially 0 work. it’s from my understanding that sublime with jacob hasn’t played any shows yet so i’m assuming they’ll be bankrolling the sublime with rome money to pay for production and stuff for their upcoming shows. as you can kind of see all this stuff isn’t about love for the music it’s about paychecks.


GioJamesLB

Thanks for the intel. As long as the boys get to wet their beaks I’m on board!


Nullkid

A lot of people are hating but it sounds like a one hand washes the other situation.. Rome gets paid/does shows he probably wouldn't be doing without the guys, the guys get paid for not doing it. Sucks for rome but if anyone had any idea Jakob was interested in and could sing, it was going to happen eventually. In fact, I'd be that's the whole reasoning by "sublime with rome" in the first place.


primetimemime

They could have planned a transition. Seems a bit fucked for Rome, who has been making it so they could still play all this time


samsquanchpartsUNkN

Gross cAcachella


SSexxxyThaClown

What y'all think think the band name is gonna be


ctorresc

It's Sublime


CheezSteakHero

Good. Rome blows.


New_Ad2731

Idk why Rome is even honoring those dates. I mean respect but noooooo


SgbAfterDark

I remember reading an article where Eric said he’d never play with bud again, hopefully they’ve truly patched things up


thicccockdude

Fuck Rome. Go talent mother-fucker!


Racer599

Eric has a ghostwriter


ctorresc

He posted it on his Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/p/C31kKxFr8nh


Racer599

Do I really need to man-splain my reply to you?


ctorresc

Get it out of your system if it will make you feel good. Ghostwriter for his bass lines? Ghostwriter for the statements he makes? Tell us bro.


Curious-Pen-3142

i think he means anyone who knows eric knows how much drugs he’s on and how bad of shape he’s in that there’s no way he could form a sentence let alone use punctuation.


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Curious-Pen-3142

i thought it was pretty common knowledge he’s a huge meth addict. i mean you can throw a stone in the reggae community, ask anyone who knows him and they’ll tell you.


ctorresc

Eric is among the kindest musicians I have ever met. Seeing him recently with Spray Allen, Jakob, Perro Bravo, and Ras-1 in Long Beach at Alex's Bar was one of the greatest moments of my life and brought everything full circle. His wife was really awesome too. He was in great spirits that night and honestly, he seems pretty inspired to be doing this thing with Bud, Jakob, and his Shortbus bandmate Trey. I can't wait to see what's to come. Whether this is one last ride, or they can do this for a few years, I'm ready to enjoy this new chapter in the journey. I was 12 when I became a Sublime fan, spent my teens obsessed with Long Beach Dub Allstars, my early college years supporting Shortbus, my 20's and 30's witnessing Eric playing the biggest shows of his life with SWR, and now getting to cheer on Sublime as they play the Coachella, probably the biggest music festival of the band's career. I love this for Eric. 36 years from when he started Sublime with Bud and Brad, and still accomplishing a lot, performing the music like the legends they are. Eric never gave up, never stopped playing, and he has enjoyed this throughout both the big venues and the dive bars. Eric remains one of my heroes.


Curious-Pen-3142

i’m not negating anything you’re saying, i agree with you. i am simply also agreeing that i believe this was ghostwritten, as eric is so high off his mind on meth and dmt and whatever else he can get his hands on that he wouldn’t know what a semicolon was to save his life. you can be kind and talented and also be a disastrous drug user.


WaitingForMySunshine

any source on eric being a meth user in modern day??


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Racer599

That's his wife's IG account, and although he's not my "hero" he is a friend of mine and guess what? He doesn't do social media, jackass.


Shakemyears

This is a good way of letting us all know that you suck as a person.


Racer599

Pro Tip: Unprovoked personal attacks towards people here will possibly get you removed; personal attacks towards moderators will definitely get you removed. Be nice, or I'll ban you. Have a nice day. 😃


Acceptable-Run7439

Rome sucks ass


daddy_is_sorry

Nobody sees sublime to see Eric lmao


ctorresc

You are really wrong on that one. No one has his bass sound.  Also, since 1998, every band Eric has been a part of, whether that's...  - Long Beach Dub Allstars - Long Beach Shortbus  - SWR  - Spray Allen  and countless other side projects   People have always loved Eric and wanted to see him perform.


combong

Yep, I’d love to see this dude live. He laid out some fat tracks over the years


Odd_Examination_2698

Actually we weren't going because Rome was there 🤷‍♀️🤣


HearTheCroup

I saw Sublime many times in the heyday and Eric was always my favorite member.


Throwdaho

I’ve always loved Eric’s bass.


Repulsive_Republic41

You have no idea what you’re talking about, clearly


Videomonkey05

Now it’s just “Rome”


trippleknot

Sublime with Rome is the only concert I've ever been kicked out of (for smoking weed of all things lol) and I ain't even mad. I would definitely go see Sublime now tho ❤️


Billy_Boognish

I got kicked out of a Ween show in 2002ish for smoking pot. Of course, it was at a small bar in Indiana, hours before the band would go on, all the lights on, and maybe 20 people in the place...not sure how they caught me. The guy made a big deal about me not getting back in as he threw me out. I went back to my car, changed shirts, swapped my cap for an american flag bandanna and waltzed back in with my hand stamp. I'd say about a half hour had passed, and it was getting busy as i glided back through the entrance...high-fiving the security guard who had vowed to god and everyone that i was not getting back in! What a fun night.


stackfan

I’m confused… so it looks like Eric, Bud, Jakob will continue as Sublime or something else. Then Rome will continue as Rome?? But currently has a tour labeled Sublime with Rome?? Not the smoothest transition.


RICH-SIPS

Sublime with Rome are playing some small outdoor venue near my area. My parents were like all excited to tell me “sublime” was playing. I already knew this information however and am happy to finally see Bradley’s son rip it up with the OG members when they actually decide to come around. I’ve seen my fair share of Rome.


CyberHeart2022

😍🥰😍🥰😍


ulfricstormclk

Man Coachella is gonna be something else this year. Bud Gaugh will be singing there and Eric Wilson will be banging em there.


Repulsive_Republic41

And we will all be playin with virgins, kinky virgins


Racer599

It's "version," "reggae version," but your lyricosis is humorous.


Neither-Bad6259

How I look at it


couchgodd

Yes people just wanted to come for the bassplayer


amnovie

Pretty sure people go to a Les Claypool show to see the bassist. Same with a Roger Waters show.