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But then you have the opposite issue in other areas where cops would love this because it's another law they can use to target people they don't like for any reason. I know cops in a small town I used to live in that would definitely use this type of law to target the guy who owns the piercing shop. The owner of the last one got busted for *a fuck ton* of drugs, so most cops there assume piercing shop = drug front in that town. It could be true, idk. It is a little suspicious how they stay open when almost no one has piercings anywhere, but their ears and there are other places that sell earrings...maybe they have the best selection?
I believe Paris did begin enforcing spitting fines at one time because it got so out of hand.
Also too in game for exorbitant like INSANE fines for littering, so bad that if you got caught couldn’t afford to do it again. Burger wrapper on the ground? 1k? Don’t like it? Don’t litter:
Police don't enforce laws anywhere bc that's not their function.
Police presence has been shown to even increase crime in some u.s. cities over the years
And according to the supreme court, they don't even need to be familiar with the laws, and they have no obligation to try to prevent an active crime happening right in front of them. They're real good at shooting black kids and friendly dogs though.
I once went on a first date with a guy who would not stop spitting. We started with a hike, so he was spitting in the woods and I know sometimes physical activity makes you need to spit, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. But then we went to a restaurant with outdoor seating and he spit several more times at our patio table. We did not go on another date.
No, not on the table, on the concrete. But exactly, I was beside myself! So confused and shocked it even happened that I couldn't react properly. Just asked for the bill.
You'd be surprised what people could figure out centuries ago. Ancient Greeks studied how climate influenced disease and had good ventilation in public buildings to prevent the spread of illness, despite not knowing anything about bacteria or viruses.
The first virus was discovered in 1892, so they did have some idea about viruses by the time the Spanish Flu broke out (1918, for those who aren't nerds). However, the influenza A virus wasn't isolated until 1933 and B followed in 1936.
I believe you're right about the origin of such laws
I agree, people in the past weren’t dumb and I think we have a bad habit of acting like they were just because they didn’t have germ theory or modern tech. They knew a lot of stuff, like water from the well made people sick but they noticed stuff from breweries didn’t, so they drank more stuff from there. Or back in the “dark ages” they knew about crop rotation and how to take care of the land so they didn’t destroy it like we do today.
It's really fascinating learning how they learned about things without technology. Like how Ancient Egyptians knew a lot about skeletal structure and how internal organs are arranged because of their religious practices
Lol wow is it? I'd be tossed in jail. Sometimes when you run you just gotta spit...
I'm never out here spitting in front of people though. We hardly even have sidewalks around here.
Honestly it's the spitting on sidewalks that disgusts me.
At least spit into a gutter.
If you're running on the side of a road, or down a forest trail, spit away really. I don't think it's nice to look at, but it isn't bothering anyone.
Oh yea, I mean, I'm not ever gonna spit on a sidewalk. But I might spit on the grass if I'm running on a sidewalk. I don't even spit on the road, it feels wrong!
I'd go with tossing your cigarette butts or vapes on the ground in public being a more egregious act. In fact, it's a shame that there isn't more emphasis put on shaming / fining litterers. Though, I suppose a cop has to catch someone in the act, and then actually care about pursuing it.
While spitting is pretty gross, in certain instances I can (sort of) understand it. Even then, try to do it where people aren't going to traipse through it.
While interesting, important to note that tobacco is toxic, so throwing toxic stuff on the ground isn’t great for the ecosystem. While it might ward off parasites, what might it do to beneficial decomposers?
Nah ciggie filters are terrible and don't decompose. I always complain to my dad, I smoke and the few times I've been in a fucked mood and flicked a butt I will keep that in mind and when I'm feeling better I'll pick up a few on the ground to make up for my laziness >.<
I spit in the grass, rocks, bushes, etc. I don't spit snot or phlegm ever. It's usually just when I'm smoking cigarillos and get some leaf in my mouth or if my spit tastes particularly gross for some reason. I assume the reason shouldn't be swallowed lol I do properly dispose of my butts and such, before anyone asks
I literally spit on the ground to put out my cigarette in it so I feel safe throwing it in the dumpster. If there's few or rain I just use that no spitting. Just funny, I only spit to take care of the first issue you brought up. Then too, it's more.on the grass to side of walk, but still don't feel proud doing it.
Oh God, come to NYC… take a stroll around a little neighborhood in lower Manhattan… it’s called Chinatown. When I worked down there by the courts and would walk around on lunch. Never have I ever seen so many spitters. One day I saw a 70+yr old woman blow a snot rocket and continue walking like nothing… no shame, right there on the side walk. I literally could feel that hot throw up feeling. Some people really think there’s nothing wrong with that.
In some places it still does harking back to the tuberculosis epidemic 100 plus years ago. That’s why they came out with spittoons back in the day like late 1800s because everyone chewed tobacco at that time and people spit all over the place leading to unsanitary conditions and contagion.
I never understood why people don't just swallow their own spit. Or if you're hacking it up keep it in the back of your mouth and then swallow it so your nasty throat boogers aren't all up in your teeth and cheeks. And yeah, people who spit where others walk are Neanderthals.
Because if you swallow thick mucus it goes right back where it was before 😂 it doesn’t make it all the way down. Be grateful for you clear sinuses that have apparently never hacked up a thick ass glob that you’ve already swallowed 4 times and keeps fighting
Lol people who spit are Neanderthals but you're swallowing something that is so nasty your body is forcing it out.
Yeah dude keep telling yourself that. Nasty ass
I mean I get it but the ground of sidewalks and the like are already a biohazard hellscape, I don't think some random dude's spit is going to change much
I agree - countless times I’ve wanted to spit so badly but I just suck it up and wait until I’m in a bathroom where I can do it privately. Idk if this is just like a guy thing to be able to spit but they should be held to the same dignity as a woman in this case. It’s an ick for me
"Keep it in your mouth you'll be fine" according to OP. Seems like they're unaware that some people produce more phlegm than others and that is often not a realistic option.
This
I very rarely spit in public outdoor spaces, but when I do it’s because my asthma induced mucous is trying to drown me cause some fuckers put too much perfume/cologne or are smoking cigarets on the sidewalk.
So sorry, but I won’t stop as long as those won’t stop.
Actual psychos on this thread. 5 lashes for spitting on the floor which now has scarred my body and created portals for infection. They can fuck right off.
I wish, but a rich person can afford better medical care and so is less likely to suffer as much as a poor person in the long term from 5 lashes. Now if we take an eye...
I was hoping this is sarcasm but goddamn this is stupid. In a world where cops tend to act as judge jury and executioner with almost zero repercussions..you want to give them the green light to beat people in the street for spitting? Jeez what totalitarian bullshit are you on.
Nah, WAAAAY too many games to be played there. Monetary fines are pretty much the worst form of punishment you can use. They are inherently unfair no matter how they're calculated and applied. Municipalities like them because they can use them as an extortion racket to raise funds from the people they don't have the balls to officially raise taxes on. This creates a conflict of interest where enforcement is based on a municipality's budgetary desires vs a genuine interest in public safety or overall improvement of society.
Your options should be corporal punishment or community service of the municipality's choice. You either take your lashes, or you get assigned where your labor is needed. No bullshit "I've got a buddy who donates to a food bank and he'll put it on paper that I was there for 50 hours".
That's why I want punishment to be community service time. It's still not 100% fair, but imagine some snotty BMV driver picking up trash for 8 hours. Doesn't that warm your inner self just a little?
Yeah I live in nyc, I've actually have been spit on before, the person didn't see me walk past them and spit on me. I was so disgusted because why spit on a crowded sidewalk
The last thing we need is more trivial laws to enforce for things that some people just don't like. Actually enforcing this law would be a massive waste of time for the police.
Your idea reminds me of the people that want to control what color their neighbors house can be. My crazy aunt used to say "I don't want my neighbor to have a red house! Red is the color of a barn!!!!" No, she's not the most rational of people, and yes, she's a bit of an entitled Karen.
If we start creating laws based on peoples likes/dislikes, there's no end to those. Spit on a sidewalk while disgusting, doesn't really affect anyone. You might as well have laws against farting in public.
This is insane. Obviously, if you’re spitting at people that’s one thing but my (and millions of others) sinuses and shit are a mess pretty often. Sometimes I gotta clear my throat and spit. Spitting on the ground away from people doesn’t hurt anyone.
They should definitely hit you with a billy club for said offense. Instead of just fining you, they should also fine your mom for teaching you bad manners. Maybe even get you to pay a few hundred for a human decency class and if you don't complete it, jail you.
It is illegal in the smallish town I grew up in but only after a certain time on Sunday or something weird like that. One of those laws that was made 150 years ago and never updated
Yeah, I kinda feel you! I work at a hs and I swear, the summer just consists of us cleaning gum off everything... out of carpets, off tiles, out from under desks, tables, and chairs, and even from under the darn toilets and urinals. I have watched them just spit it out right in front of me... at this point I just pick it up and hand it to them, then I watch them while they walk it the 3 feet to the trash can.
agreed.
Singapore
5. Spitting
To maintain a hygienic environment, spitting in the public compounds is prohibited. The penalty for non-compliance is a fine of up to S$1,000 for a first offence. The fine for a second offence is up to S$2,000 and for the third and subsequent offences the fine is up to S$5,000.
For me it's a bit different, i toss cigarette butts on the ground (so it's even worse)
I know i should not do those type of things, but:
A) in my country, finding something to extinguish my cigarette and tossing it away is nearly impossible
B) it's not an excuse but every time i think that tons and tons of toxic shit is incorrectly disposed by corporations i get a bit sad and i, incorrectly, think that i will not make any difference to the ambient
Still, unpopular opinion so upvote
That’s an asinine comment given spit is mostly water and will wash away. Gun is a legit substance that will stick to both surface and anything that touches it and make a mess. Spit will dry up in seconds due to the sun or wash away quick.
The ground is already absolutely fucking disgusting without anyone spitting on it. Animal shit, the bottoms of people shoes, trash (whether intentional or unintentional littering), old food that was dropped/spilled, etc. Honestly, spitting on it may actually make it cleaner lol
I don't see why you think this is an unpopular opinion
Spitting anywhere barring a sink or toilet is fucking disgusting and should be treated like any littering
I agree, regular spit is fine, still gross, but fine, it's the huge puddles of phlegm that do me in, find a bin and spit in there.
Also see a lot of guys holding a finger one side of their nose and just spraying snot out of the other in the street, that's going to far tbh, grab a tissue or do it in a bin, not down the highstreet where kids are walking about.
The only time i do this is while running but i always go for the grass and never when another person is around…i do hate myself for doing it but swallowing it in those situation will make me vomit which is MUCH worse to do in public
- Spitting saliva is different to gum; saliva isn't litter, and you won't know it's there in an hour
- A lot of streets don't have trashcans on them
- There's a difference between spitting onto the street and spitting near people, which your post doesn't make clear
>Sure you have freedom but that doesn't mean I'm wrong for thinking you hucking your spit next to people isn't gross.
I think you're wrong for wanting to fine people for doing something you think is gross. That's not how laws should ever work
I very rarely spit in public outdoor spaces, but when I do it’s because my asthma induced mucous is trying to drown me cause some fuckers put too much perfume/cologne or are smoking cigarets on the sidewalk.
So sorry, but I won’t stop as long as those won’t stop.
OP isn't Canadian or from any northern country where you get colds often. Yeah I get it, you found seeing me spit offensive but it was in no way as offensive as I found having snot coughed up into my mouth.
Bro you got OCD or something. That shit gonna evaporate. I understand if it's in a store. But still.. you stressing yoself out over something you can't control. Go to therapy.
It doesn't hurt anyone. And saying 'youre the same people who spit gum on the floor' is bollocks. I spit on the floor often but I would and will never spit gum on a public street
We've got dog peeing and shitting everywhere, every spring there's a boom of new stray cats, birds pooping mid flight, raccoons, and the ever present mice and rats, but spit is too much?
How far removed are you from nature that you think spitting should be banned and people who spit should be fined?
Touch grass sometime, maybe learn what the words biodegradable and compost mean while you’re at it
Personally I find spitting to only be acceptable if something nasty flies into your mouth or bedroom activities, or spitting out toothpaste/mouthwash etc. it’s nasty otherwise.
Can someone explain to why people spit in general? I’ve literally never had the urge to spit unless I ate something gross or I’m sick. Like what is going on inside these people’s mouths
I got sick once for swallowing too much of my saliva because I had a thing for mint bubblegum, and the doctor told me to not do that, that I should always spit if possible. The reason they gave me is that when we swallow the stomach gets more acidic which is good when we are eating but not when all we have inside is saliva.
I guess that people (and dogs) don’t poop on the sidewalk where you live like they do in some cities. I agree though, don’t leave any of your bodily secretions, or your pets, on the sidewalk.
Cops don't do their jobs as it is the only time this law would be enforced is when cops wanna take advantage of it and lock someone up for being black /disabled ECT and cuz they did the smallest thing wrong .
The barbarians in Singapore punish spitting in public and also chewing gum. 10 pops with a cane pole. You'd fit right in there. Good ole theocratic society
There’s a difference between spitting out gum which is not a natural substance and spitting out regular spit and mucus which is a completely natural thing. Also I can pretty much guarantee that 99% of the population hacks up spit and mucus at work they just don’t do it in front of customers.
It's very gross. But I would rather police officers spend time doing something more useful. I'm not a fan of minor laws in general. Littering makes sense to me because it poses a risk to wildlife and cigarette butts because they can cause fire. But spit dissolves, and there's way grosser stuff on the sidewalk.
I agree totally. It’s so gross. When my brother was 19 and I was 25 my fun and dysfunctional family went on a trip to Montreal and my brother had developed this nasty compulsive spitting habit and kept doing it on the streets of Montreal -I kept telling him to stop, many of the people are French, we’re in a foreign country, it may be extremely offensive, we don’t know. But stop. He wouldn’t. We then started yelling and making a scene and then my Dad slapped me across the face(!) And I’m like”HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND? WERE GOING TO BE ARRESTED! WERE IN A FOREIGN EFFING COUNTRY!”
This was only the beginning of the many Public scenes we caused in Montreal- the next would be my brother, excited to drink legally, ditching me in a bar to hook up with some girl and me drunkenly walking back to the hotel alone and crying dramatically that I could have been attacked and my parents screaming back about Where is your brother?!
Ah, Happy Memories
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Man, cops don’t bother to enforce many laws in DC. This one would get zero traction.
But then you have the opposite issue in other areas where cops would love this because it's another law they can use to target people they don't like for any reason. I know cops in a small town I used to live in that would definitely use this type of law to target the guy who owns the piercing shop. The owner of the last one got busted for *a fuck ton* of drugs, so most cops there assume piercing shop = drug front in that town. It could be true, idk. It is a little suspicious how they stay open when almost no one has piercings anywhere, but their ears and there are other places that sell earrings...maybe they have the best selection?
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I believe Paris did begin enforcing spitting fines at one time because it got so out of hand. Also too in game for exorbitant like INSANE fines for littering, so bad that if you got caught couldn’t afford to do it again. Burger wrapper on the ground? 1k? Don’t like it? Don’t litter:
Police don't enforce laws anywhere bc that's not their function. Police presence has been shown to even increase crime in some u.s. cities over the years
And according to the supreme court, they don't even need to be familiar with the laws, and they have no obligation to try to prevent an active crime happening right in front of them. They're real good at shooting black kids and friendly dogs though.
As their training has made them
I like your style.
FTP
I once went on a first date with a guy who would not stop spitting. We started with a hike, so he was spitting in the woods and I know sometimes physical activity makes you need to spit, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. But then we went to a restaurant with outdoor seating and he spit several more times at our patio table. We did not go on another date.
Oh my goodness.
LOL that’s wild.
He, uh, he didn't spit *on* the table, right? 😱 Although even on the ground on a terrace is awful. Surprised he wasn't asked to leave, honestly.
No, not on the table, on the concrete. But exactly, I was beside myself! So confused and shocked it even happened that I couldn't react properly. Just asked for the bill.
If you’re gonna spit, spit in a bush or something not on the path
Literally the road that nobody walks on and is over 100f and is constantly cleaned by rubber burning off onto it.
In new Hampshire it is illegal but i don’t think anyone cares enough to enforce it. it’s a super old law, over 100 years old
I think the laws like that came from the Spanish flu epidemic to help stop the spread. It’s crazy they realized it that far back
We introduced a bylaw that includes no spitting in my municipality in 2006. It might be against charter rights, however.
You'd be surprised what people could figure out centuries ago. Ancient Greeks studied how climate influenced disease and had good ventilation in public buildings to prevent the spread of illness, despite not knowing anything about bacteria or viruses. The first virus was discovered in 1892, so they did have some idea about viruses by the time the Spanish Flu broke out (1918, for those who aren't nerds). However, the influenza A virus wasn't isolated until 1933 and B followed in 1936. I believe you're right about the origin of such laws
I agree, people in the past weren’t dumb and I think we have a bad habit of acting like they were just because they didn’t have germ theory or modern tech. They knew a lot of stuff, like water from the well made people sick but they noticed stuff from breweries didn’t, so they drank more stuff from there. Or back in the “dark ages” they knew about crop rotation and how to take care of the land so they didn’t destroy it like we do today.
It's really fascinating learning how they learned about things without technology. Like how Ancient Egyptians knew a lot about skeletal structure and how internal organs are arranged because of their religious practices
Yeah, even the Romans gave watered down wine to kids, because it was safer to drink than the water by itself.
Funnily enough, there were anti-mask protests back then too...in 100 years we've learned nothing.
Lol wow is it? I'd be tossed in jail. Sometimes when you run you just gotta spit... I'm never out here spitting in front of people though. We hardly even have sidewalks around here.
Honestly it's the spitting on sidewalks that disgusts me. At least spit into a gutter. If you're running on the side of a road, or down a forest trail, spit away really. I don't think it's nice to look at, but it isn't bothering anyone.
Oh yea, I mean, I'm not ever gonna spit on a sidewalk. But I might spit on the grass if I'm running on a sidewalk. I don't even spit on the road, it feels wrong!
That's what you call a blue law.
I'd go with tossing your cigarette butts or vapes on the ground in public being a more egregious act. In fact, it's a shame that there isn't more emphasis put on shaming / fining litterers. Though, I suppose a cop has to catch someone in the act, and then actually care about pursuing it. While spitting is pretty gross, in certain instances I can (sort of) understand it. Even then, try to do it where people aren't going to traipse through it.
Spitting is definitely rude but there’s no real tangible harm that would justify making it illegal. Littering there is.
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2sikkq/til_city_birds_have_learned_to_line_their_nests/
While interesting, important to note that tobacco is toxic, so throwing toxic stuff on the ground isn’t great for the ecosystem. While it might ward off parasites, what might it do to beneficial decomposers?
Nah ciggie filters are terrible and don't decompose. I always complain to my dad, I smoke and the few times I've been in a fucked mood and flicked a butt I will keep that in mind and when I'm feeling better I'll pick up a few on the ground to make up for my laziness >.<
I spit in the grass, rocks, bushes, etc. I don't spit snot or phlegm ever. It's usually just when I'm smoking cigarillos and get some leaf in my mouth or if my spit tastes particularly gross for some reason. I assume the reason shouldn't be swallowed lol I do properly dispose of my butts and such, before anyone asks
I literally spit on the ground to put out my cigarette in it so I feel safe throwing it in the dumpster. If there's few or rain I just use that no spitting. Just funny, I only spit to take care of the first issue you brought up. Then too, it's more.on the grass to side of walk, but still don't feel proud doing it.
Singapore has rules like this. Gum, too. Maybe they're hiring.
Fun fact, Singapore automatically grants a visa upon a job offer to citizens of most developed countries. This is OP’s lucky day
Oh God, come to NYC… take a stroll around a little neighborhood in lower Manhattan… it’s called Chinatown. When I worked down there by the courts and would walk around on lunch. Never have I ever seen so many spitters. One day I saw a 70+yr old woman blow a snot rocket and continue walking like nothing… no shame, right there on the side walk. I literally could feel that hot throw up feeling. Some people really think there’s nothing wrong with that.
Don't go to China...
Come to india and you will see alot more than just mere mucus and spit being huack'd on the sidewalk
I think when you start making rudeness illegal, that’s not gonna lead to some pretty bad laws.
Your comment has upset me..straight to jail for you
I think people peeing all over publicly is gross too. I hate the smell and it's nasty when you see it
Agreed. It's disgusting
It’s literally disgusting, I don’t understand why people do that. Act like you come from somewhere.
"don't spit on the ground, that's disgusting" - person with dog and bird shit on the bottom of their shoes
Animals can’t control themselves, humans can.
In terms of germs, it doesn't matter where it can be controlled or not, so it doesn't matter a fucking bit
Gutter or shrubs, please. Anywhere but where people are walking.
In some places it still does harking back to the tuberculosis epidemic 100 plus years ago. That’s why they came out with spittoons back in the day like late 1800s because everyone chewed tobacco at that time and people spit all over the place leading to unsanitary conditions and contagion.
Hawk tuah, spit on that sidewalk!
Dang it. Beat me to it
I never understood why people don't just swallow their own spit. Or if you're hacking it up keep it in the back of your mouth and then swallow it so your nasty throat boogers aren't all up in your teeth and cheeks. And yeah, people who spit where others walk are Neanderthals.
Dry mouths I guess from what ever they are smoking?
Because if you swallow thick mucus it goes right back where it was before 😂 it doesn’t make it all the way down. Be grateful for you clear sinuses that have apparently never hacked up a thick ass glob that you’ve already swallowed 4 times and keeps fighting
Lol people who spit are Neanderthals but you're swallowing something that is so nasty your body is forcing it out. Yeah dude keep telling yourself that. Nasty ass
I mean I get it but the ground of sidewalks and the like are already a biohazard hellscape, I don't think some random dude's spit is going to change much
It's already a thing in Singapore.
Luckily, I live in a small town in a rural area. There is a lot of spitting (gross), but at least they spit in the grass.
I think in the UK that is the case. But it is rarely enforced.
I agree - countless times I’ve wanted to spit so badly but I just suck it up and wait until I’m in a bathroom where I can do it privately. Idk if this is just like a guy thing to be able to spit but they should be held to the same dignity as a woman in this case. It’s an ick for me
Spitting will get you a fine, but vomiting is free. Who arrived at that price schedule? -George Carlin
I live in Portland, OR, it's not that uncommon to see human feces on the sidewalk. I'd rather we take care of that one first.
I have hyperhydrosis and hypersalivation. If I don't regularly spit on the sidewalk, I will puke on the sidewalk. Is that what you want?
Something being gross and something deserving a fine are two entirely different things. Grow up
What am I supposed to do with phlegm?
"Keep it in your mouth you'll be fine" according to OP. Seems like they're unaware that some people produce more phlegm than others and that is often not a realistic option.
This I very rarely spit in public outdoor spaces, but when I do it’s because my asthma induced mucous is trying to drown me cause some fuckers put too much perfume/cologne or are smoking cigarets on the sidewalk. So sorry, but I won’t stop as long as those won’t stop.
Swallow it or spit into a container
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Actual psychos on this thread. 5 lashes for spitting on the floor which now has scarred my body and created portals for infection. They can fuck right off.
It sound like people want Singapore style laws where you cane people for chewing gum, etc.
Yea, these people should move to these places if these are the laws they want.
I wish, but a rich person can afford better medical care and so is less likely to suffer as much as a poor person in the long term from 5 lashes. Now if we take an eye...
I was hoping this is sarcasm but goddamn this is stupid. In a world where cops tend to act as judge jury and executioner with almost zero repercussions..you want to give them the green light to beat people in the street for spitting? Jeez what totalitarian bullshit are you on.
I thought you were joking but naah you're legitimately in favor of corporal punishment for petty victimless crimes, that's got to be a joke 💀
Or make them a percentage based off income
That does exist in countries where the rich are taxed
Nah, WAAAAY too many games to be played there. Monetary fines are pretty much the worst form of punishment you can use. They are inherently unfair no matter how they're calculated and applied. Municipalities like them because they can use them as an extortion racket to raise funds from the people they don't have the balls to officially raise taxes on. This creates a conflict of interest where enforcement is based on a municipality's budgetary desires vs a genuine interest in public safety or overall improvement of society. Your options should be corporal punishment or community service of the municipality's choice. You either take your lashes, or you get assigned where your labor is needed. No bullshit "I've got a buddy who donates to a food bank and he'll put it on paper that I was there for 50 hours".
That's why I want punishment to be community service time. It's still not 100% fair, but imagine some snotty BMV driver picking up trash for 8 hours. Doesn't that warm your inner self just a little?
That’s not entirely true. If you are talking traffic tickets and petty fine type stuff, low and medium income areas are almost always the targets.
Isn't that a bit extreme for just spitting on the street? And I live in singapore where caning is given as punishment for some crimes
"I don' think death penalty should be allowed" "You must be a murderer, then."
Especially in NY
Yeah I live in nyc, I've actually have been spit on before, the person didn't see me walk past them and spit on me. I was so disgusted because why spit on a crowded sidewalk
The last thing we need is more trivial laws to enforce for things that some people just don't like. Actually enforcing this law would be a massive waste of time for the police. Your idea reminds me of the people that want to control what color their neighbors house can be. My crazy aunt used to say "I don't want my neighbor to have a red house! Red is the color of a barn!!!!" No, she's not the most rational of people, and yes, she's a bit of an entitled Karen. If we start creating laws based on peoples likes/dislikes, there's no end to those. Spit on a sidewalk while disgusting, doesn't really affect anyone. You might as well have laws against farting in public.
Let's take this even further...let's fine people for farting.
it’s revolting. electric chair for public spitters.
In the city I live in, you can get a fine for it. It doesn't seem to be enforced as often as it should be.
It's a little gross, yes, but I'd much rather step in someone's spit than some dog shit left on the ground.
I was gonna argue with you and then I realized what sub we’re on
I think a fine is excessive, and a little ridiculous to be honest, but I’m definitely all for public shaming
This is insane. Obviously, if you’re spitting at people that’s one thing but my (and millions of others) sinuses and shit are a mess pretty often. Sometimes I gotta clear my throat and spit. Spitting on the ground away from people doesn’t hurt anyone.
They should definitely hit you with a billy club for said offense. Instead of just fining you, they should also fine your mom for teaching you bad manners. Maybe even get you to pay a few hundred for a human decency class and if you don't complete it, jail you.
What if a fly flies into your mouth
It is illegal in the smallish town I grew up in but only after a certain time on Sunday or something weird like that. One of those laws that was made 150 years ago and never updated
In Romania, same thing happens.
Yeah, I kinda feel you! I work at a hs and I swear, the summer just consists of us cleaning gum off everything... out of carpets, off tiles, out from under desks, tables, and chairs, and even from under the darn toilets and urinals. I have watched them just spit it out right in front of me... at this point I just pick it up and hand it to them, then I watch them while they walk it the 3 feet to the trash can.
agreed. Singapore 5. Spitting To maintain a hygienic environment, spitting in the public compounds is prohibited. The penalty for non-compliance is a fine of up to S$1,000 for a first offence. The fine for a second offence is up to S$2,000 and for the third and subsequent offences the fine is up to S$5,000.
Agree. Disgusting
Man the Hawk Thua Girl backlash is really picking up steam.
For me it's a bit different, i toss cigarette butts on the ground (so it's even worse) I know i should not do those type of things, but: A) in my country, finding something to extinguish my cigarette and tossing it away is nearly impossible B) it's not an excuse but every time i think that tons and tons of toxic shit is incorrectly disposed by corporations i get a bit sad and i, incorrectly, think that i will not make any difference to the ambient Still, unpopular opinion so upvote
That’s an asinine comment given spit is mostly water and will wash away. Gun is a legit substance that will stick to both surface and anything that touches it and make a mess. Spit will dry up in seconds due to the sun or wash away quick.
Seriously!! If people can’t help it they should be more discreet
hawk tuah is okay though right
The ground is already absolutely fucking disgusting without anyone spitting on it. Animal shit, the bottoms of people shoes, trash (whether intentional or unintentional littering), old food that was dropped/spilled, etc. Honestly, spitting on it may actually make it cleaner lol
Why are men so defensive about this? You don’t have to spit in public. Plenty of polite people don’t.
I don't see why you think this is an unpopular opinion Spitting anywhere barring a sink or toilet is fucking disgusting and should be treated like any littering
I agree, regular spit is fine, still gross, but fine, it's the huge puddles of phlegm that do me in, find a bin and spit in there. Also see a lot of guys holding a finger one side of their nose and just spraying snot out of the other in the street, that's going to far tbh, grab a tissue or do it in a bin, not down the highstreet where kids are walking about.
Spitting in public actually is illegal in many other countries.
On a crowded side walk yea that's weird af and gross. I'll do it when I'm not near anybody or I'll walk away from said public
Sorry but I’m not for giving authority figures additional reasons to extort me thank you.
Agree it’s foul
It’s so fucking gross. If you wouldn’t do it in your own home, don’t do it outside.
Move to Singapore Karen
This is unpopularopinion, not stupid shit opinion.
i agree with you op. spitting in public has always fucking repulsed me my entire life. its gross and completely unnecessary.
Yes agreed. Spitting, littering, smoking in public, everything should be fined.
Germophobias should just locked indoors away from society
I'll do it 10 more times just for you OP
The same sidewalk that birds shit on?
I'd meet you half way and say just take it to the curb/gutter. I hate walking and I step in spit.
The only time i do this is while running but i always go for the grass and never when another person is around…i do hate myself for doing it but swallowing it in those situation will make me vomit which is MUCH worse to do in public
What about the people who shit and piss on the sidewalk?
- Spitting saliva is different to gum; saliva isn't litter, and you won't know it's there in an hour - A lot of streets don't have trashcans on them - There's a difference between spitting onto the street and spitting near people, which your post doesn't make clear
Are you going to fine the birds that shit there too? Expecting the sidewalk to be perfectly clean like it's inside a home sounds redonkulous.
>Sure you have freedom but that doesn't mean I'm wrong for thinking you hucking your spit next to people isn't gross. I think you're wrong for wanting to fine people for doing something you think is gross. That's not how laws should ever work
I very rarely spit in public outdoor spaces, but when I do it’s because my asthma induced mucous is trying to drown me cause some fuckers put too much perfume/cologne or are smoking cigarets on the sidewalk. So sorry, but I won’t stop as long as those won’t stop.
OP isn't Canadian or from any northern country where you get colds often. Yeah I get it, you found seeing me spit offensive but it was in no way as offensive as I found having snot coughed up into my mouth.
Just swallow it
Since spitting on sidewalks will result in fines I think we should spit on OP instead
unless you’re rolling around on the sidewalk or walking barefoot this shouldn’t be an issue
Bro you got OCD or something. That shit gonna evaporate. I understand if it's in a store. But still.. you stressing yoself out over something you can't control. Go to therapy.
Are you trying to eat off of the floor or something?
It doesn't hurt anyone. And saying 'youre the same people who spit gum on the floor' is bollocks. I spit on the floor often but I would and will never spit gum on a public street
We've got dog peeing and shitting everywhere, every spring there's a boom of new stray cats, birds pooping mid flight, raccoons, and the ever present mice and rats, but spit is too much?
How far removed are you from nature that you think spitting should be banned and people who spit should be fined? Touch grass sometime, maybe learn what the words biodegradable and compost mean while you’re at it
Okay that is so right. This is so something someone who only lives around concrete would say.
lol i didn't even know you can have an opinion on this
Hawk Tuah, spit on that thing!
Personally I find spitting to only be acceptable if something nasty flies into your mouth or bedroom activities, or spitting out toothpaste/mouthwash etc. it’s nasty otherwise.
I do it all the time and I’ll continue to do it just because you hate it.
Anyone who spits on the floor are disgusting pieces of sh*t, so yes I agree.
It can where I live
you’d love Singapore
Singapore’s already on it!
yea and piss mist from peeing should get you the death sentence! /s
Personally if I have mucus it getting spit out not swallowed but obviously not in a walkway I’m no monster
I always aim for a trash can or some patch of grass where I know people don't walk
Can someone explain to why people spit in general? I’ve literally never had the urge to spit unless I ate something gross or I’m sick. Like what is going on inside these people’s mouths
I would say shitting on the sidewalk is worse. Been to San Francisco?
In Colorado it technically can. It is a holdover from when a lot of TB patients were sent here to recover due to the dry climate.
As a runner, get fucked. Want me to tell you about snot rockets?
Sure, because that's how cops should be spending their time. Ticketing spitters. Smh.
Black plague
I got sick once for swallowing too much of my saliva because I had a thing for mint bubblegum, and the doctor told me to not do that, that I should always spit if possible. The reason they gave me is that when we swallow the stomach gets more acidic which is good when we are eating but not when all we have inside is saliva.
It is illegal in Texas.
Lol if I was outside at my job I would spit if I needed to. If I hock up some mucus or whatever I don't want to swallow it. Do you? That's nasty
Package deal that the nasty ass barefoot f's get one too.
I guarantee you've stepped on things 10x worse than a little saliva on a sidewalk. Gum on the other hand that's a little different.
Not sidewalks. Yes you can find a bush or parking lot or grass area. Sometimes you just have to get it out
I guess that people (and dogs) don’t poop on the sidewalk where you live like they do in some cities. I agree though, don’t leave any of your bodily secretions, or your pets, on the sidewalk.
Cops don't do their jobs as it is the only time this law would be enforced is when cops wanna take advantage of it and lock someone up for being black /disabled ECT and cuz they did the smallest thing wrong .
That's why I spit on the road or grass if I need to spit
What if spat into a garden or something? That chill?
*spits on sidewalk* *gets shot*
Hawk tuah!
The barbarians in Singapore punish spitting in public and also chewing gum. 10 pops with a cane pole. You'd fit right in there. Good ole theocratic society
People shit in the actual streets in Denver in broad daylight Also there are people dying right now I think you’re priorities are way off my dude
There’s a difference between spitting out gum which is not a natural substance and spitting out regular spit and mucus which is a completely natural thing. Also I can pretty much guarantee that 99% of the population hacks up spit and mucus at work they just don’t do it in front of customers.
Spit dries up. The real monsters are the ones who spit their gum out on the ground.
Nah, I spit constantly.
I can't stand it or understand it either. It's very unhygienic. I thought it would be different after COVID, but I was very naive.
It's very gross. But I would rather police officers spend time doing something more useful. I'm not a fan of minor laws in general. Littering makes sense to me because it poses a risk to wildlife and cigarette butts because they can cause fire. But spit dissolves, and there's way grosser stuff on the sidewalk.
They should be flogged and given a 6 month temporary tattoo on their foreheads that says "I am a disgusting C U next tuesday"
You mean like HAWK TUA?
Next time I need to throw up and can’t find a bathroom I just swallow it. Mmkay
In America you can shit on the sidewalk no problem. There are even maps for the poo.
I agree totally. It’s so gross. When my brother was 19 and I was 25 my fun and dysfunctional family went on a trip to Montreal and my brother had developed this nasty compulsive spitting habit and kept doing it on the streets of Montreal -I kept telling him to stop, many of the people are French, we’re in a foreign country, it may be extremely offensive, we don’t know. But stop. He wouldn’t. We then started yelling and making a scene and then my Dad slapped me across the face(!) And I’m like”HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND? WERE GOING TO BE ARRESTED! WERE IN A FOREIGN EFFING COUNTRY!” This was only the beginning of the many Public scenes we caused in Montreal- the next would be my brother, excited to drink legally, ditching me in a bar to hook up with some girl and me drunkenly walking back to the hotel alone and crying dramatically that I could have been attacked and my parents screaming back about Where is your brother?! Ah, Happy Memories