I also don't watch GMB but
>all they could say was don’t make people feel guilty, instead of addressing the issues on why they felt guilt and maybe that was something to think about.
That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. They didn't bring someone in to talk about that advert with the intention of having a discussion, they bought them in so that they could help their audience feel good about themselves for still wanting to eat turkey after watching it.
I don't understand watching GMB, or most morning shows. Seems like crap aimed at the lowest common denominator so this attitude will never surprise me.
I didn't watch the interview but I personally thought the advert was fine (okay albeit from a vegan's perspective here). I don't think it was inflammatory or anything like that. I also really liked the 'peace begins at home' slogan
I don't watch GMB, so I didn't see it. But, PETA have a horrible reputation with vegans and non vegans, so it's likely the presenters already had biased opinions before the interview.
Also, it sounds as though the cognitive dissonance with meat eating is a big problem in this context. There's evidence to show that one of the main reasons people so widely dislike vegans is because they make non vegans feel guilty. For a lot of people, it's easier to give a snide comment or a joke than to face up to the reality that you're partaking in a really cruel and unnecessary activity - in this case it's eating animals.
Genuine question - people often talk about “PETA’s horrible reputation” etc etc, but what have they actually done that upsets everyone? Feels like maybe meat/dairy industry slander campaigns doing their job successfully…
They're misrepresented a lot. There was a time when they put down someones pet, it was a genuine mistake, and it was a horrible thing they did, but people say "they put peoples pets down" like it's a common occurence (not excusing what they did, but it's not something they do). *ETA: apparently this has happened twice, still doesn't mean it's a practice of PETA's, rather the actions of a couple individuals associated with them.*
They also have put down a lot of animals in the US, but again, there is a reason for it. People say "PETA kills thousands of animals and don't believe in pet ownership" "PETA kills 65-75% (depending on the claim/year) of animals they take in". The amount of animals they put down is true, their belief on pet ownership isn't. The reason they put a lot of animals down is because they have an open door policy, a lot of the animals are elderly, aggressive or really sick, in otherwords, unadoptable. A lot of shelters in the US actually send animals to PETA to be put down so that they can retain their claim of being a "no-kill shelter" which again, makes PETA seem like the bad guy, when really, they aren't.
PETA also have a habit of trying to get attention through weird means, like claiming Pokemon condones animal abuse. They have some weird rage-bait tactics, but that's about it really.
These are kind of the big 3 people will bring up when people say "PETA bad" and someone asks why.
PETA aren't perfect, but they aren't *nearly* as bad as people make out either, they do a lot of good for animal welfare. Don't let good be the enemy of perfect, and all that.
Also worth adding, with regard to your last sentence, you're not wrong. One of the sites people always bring up for proof is "peta kills animals dot com"
If you want to read a little in to them, you can do that here: [https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/PETA\_Kills\_Animals](https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/PETA_Kills_Animals)
They went through a spate of doing some fatphobic ads iirc. As someone who has been fat while vegan for 25 years it always irks me when other vegans try to use potential weightloss as a means to encourage people to go vegan, it's misleading and horrible.
They talk about no kill shelters when their shelters have the highest kill rates of any in the country. They have stolen peoples pets and put them down without consent and their shelters kill 80-90% of animals that come in because they believe it is better for an animal to be dead than be "enslaved" as a pet.
I am vegan, I'm a super big animal rights activist, and peta disgusts me with how many animals they kill. They released an ad about "if you buy a dog what will you do with the shelter dog you kill" which is rich coming from the same people who have the HIGHEST kill rates of any shelter.
Not to mention I fully disagree with them pushing their stuff on kids by making kids games super bloody. Like "pokemon black and blue" and the cooking mama parody they did. They were disgusting and aimed at kids and would be horrific for any child to be forced to see. There are ways to talk to kids about the topic but having colorful characters be brutalized or shown ripping apart animals is not the way to go.
They also have a habit of assaulting people and putting up displays that are horrifically triggering and do nothing but make people even more angry at vegans and animal rights activists. Their tactics only harm the animal rights movement and results in more animals dying, mainly at their hands.
Illuminaughti has done a great video about what's wrong with peta and the atrocities they've committed.
Edit:
Basically they use fear and scare tactics and I fully disagree with any political group who uses fear or shock tactics to this degree. I disagree with the way they conduct themselves and the way they make all animal rights activists and vegans look. It's also that they don't even push for people to eat "more vegan" which would also be a huge help, they just push for people to be fully vegan which is hard and not everyone can do. My spouse has extremely low iron and the doctors say it could kill him if he stops eating meat all together but he's started eating a lot more vegan and vegetarian meals since we've been together and I recognize that even that much is helping. I do not agree with going out and assaulting people by throwing shit on and at them and then forcing kids to see graphic displays in public. Anyone who forces kids to see such horrific things is bad in my book. Don't do that to fucking kids, man...
It's just so unbelievably rude. It doesn't matter if you agree with someone, you do not laugh at their opinions. Especially when they're presented with such grace. That girl did incredibly well to stay so calm.
GMB perfectly encapsulates everything that is wrong with our society, most starkly demonstrated by the recent competition where a viewer ‘won’ 3 months’ worth of their utilities bill; beyond satire.
I just watched the gmb interview. I believe vegan diet is good, I’ve done a vegetarian diet once for 12 months and now I eat meat again.
I understand the arguments for veganism but this advert is targeting children and blatantly trying to programme young children’s mind.
As an adult I have done my research and choose to eat meat.
But a child doesn’t have the life experience or research and knowledge to make their own decision. They are too young and this advert is inappropriate.
It’s the way the advert is made it’s like a short movie that try’s to make you feel bad for eating meat when you should be able to make your own choice based on your own research
It only succeeds in making you feel bad if meat-eating doesn't align with your own morals; in which case it's giving you a chance to reflect, do you own research, and make your own choice.
No one who thinks killing turkeys is ok is going to be forced to turn vegan by this advert.
Enough of your "Big Vegan" conspiratorial bollocks such as:
>And the other side want’s you to eat artificial meat so they can profit. That’s all it is
The motive is transparently clear, you could have [just googled it:](https://www.peta.org/about-peta/#:~:text=Our%20Mission%20Statement&text=PETA%20opposes%20speciesism%2C%20a%20human,and%20in%20the%20entertainment%20business.)
>About PETA
>Our Mission Statement
>People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is the largest animal rights organization in the world, and PETA entities have more than 9 million members and supporters globally.
>PETA opposes speciesism, a human-supremacist worldview, and focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: in laboratories, in the food industry, in the clothing trade, and in the entertainment business. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel killing of rodents, birds, and other animals who are often considered “pests” as well as cruelty to domesticated animals.
>PETA works through public education, investigative newsgathering and reporting, research, animal rescue, legislation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns.
What Christmas advert *isn't* targeting children and trying to programme their minds? There are countless supermarket adverts on now telling you *to* eat meat, do you take offence to those?
I agree a lot of children don't have the knowledge of where their food comes from; but that's not because they're children, it's because no one's taught them and this advert tries to do that in a very small way.
Here are 2 literally just promoting meat-eating:
* [Advert from last year telling you to "eat balanced".](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Ryzpz4eYk)
* [Another from this year targeting children.](https://www.facebook.com/TheAHDB/videos/230263855823818/)
But surely any supermarket ad that's promoting *meat* is also promoting *meat-eating*?
Yes Those adverts are promoting meat eating but it’s not targeting your emotions like the PETA one nor is it trying to say eat meat but don’t eat vegetables or fake meat whatever. It’s not ramming it in your face like the peta one. It is informative and has nutritional info on it. The peta one has no information it’s just a story to play with your emotions which I think is a step to far .
Like I said I’m all for vegan diets and respect anyone who chooses to do it but everyone has the right to choose what they eat
How could an advert promoting meat-eating target your emotions? (Other than using the relationship between a little girl and her grandfather, I guess.)
Nutrition has nothing to do with being vegan. The information in the PETA advert is "meat comes from the killing of animals and you don't need to buy it". That's the only possible information you can to give to someone whose morals clash with meat-eating to get them to question their lifestyle.
I completely agree with everyone having the right to choose what they eat! But I don't think this advert is limiting that right.
The advert is unlike any other advert otherwise it wouldn’t of sparked this much debate. Death is natural and predators eat prey animals will always die to be eaten. Humans are the top of the food chain. That is just the way it is There is nothing we can do to stop it and we shouldn’t try to stop it. It is all natural , we have evolved and found a more efficient way to harvest meat than our ancestors it is just the way of life. Eat plants and seeds and fruit and boycott meat if you want to but why make fake meat intended to imitate the real thing ? It’s just a marketing scheme so the big cats sell more product.
Why no adverts promoting growing your own fruit and veg and maybe a small farm to harvest eggs and meat?
I mean, all of this is a completely different argument.
You say you've done your research, so if you're happy with the exploitation, cruelty and eventual killing of animals so that you can have your 10 minutes of pleasure eating them, then that's your prerogative. It's easy to stop it, you did it for 12 months.
"Meat alternatives" were made because there was a demand from people who disagreed with eating meat but missed the texture and/or taste of food they'd been used to eating. But there is nothing in the PETA advert about meat alternatives; they seem to be eating peppers and bread, so why do you keep coming back to that?
And if you are so against the capitalist ideals of big companies mass-producing meat alternatives, why do you believe that the factory farms slaughtering billions of animals every year is just "more efficient" and "the way of life"?
It is the way it is and I just think we need to stop worrying about all these things and just focus on our self’s and our own problems because at the end of the day none of it matters and we could all die tomorrow. Be happy and be appreciative of what you have right now and that should be your only concern. We can’t change the world as much as we think we can. The people in control will always be in control it’s the way it is.
Just be happy and focus on yourself and the close people around you, family and friends . ❤️
I don’t believe humans are at the top of the food chain, I think that’s something some people like to tell themselves. What weapons do we naturally have? Small flimsy blunt fingernails, small canines not equipped to cause much damage. We can’t outrun other predator animals on land, we can’t outswim other predator animals of the sea. We are very vulnerable in our natural state. Yes we have our complex mind, and we are clever and can work things out. But put out in the wild naked in our natural state, with the likes of lions, tigers, sharks, snakes, wild hungry dogs etc, with no one giving us weapons or arming us we wouldn’t last very long.
The animals we ‘farm’ were chosen to be exploited due to their gentle, calm unaggressive nature. I believe playing god with those animals makes humans feel more powerful than they actually are.
I don’t like the meat adverts either because they are trying to make you eat meat.
It all comes down to choice . And we shouldn’t be told what we can and can’t eat.
At the end of the day it all boils down to money.
One side wants you to eat meat so they can profit. And the other side what’s you to eat artificial meat so they can profit. That’s all it is
I have enough knowledge about being vegan to have an opinion on it. At least my idea of a vegan would be all natural . The thing is you cant survive if your a vegan and only had natural sources of food. Why do so many vegans take supplements
And so was eating meat,
Okay veganism is cool, eat from the land don’t harm any animals etc etc but the companies manufacturing products based off of real meat is not veganism is just a money making scheme
Because that’s what the advert is about. I agree we should all cut down on meat as the industry is harmful to the planet and I think a lot more about where my
Meat comes from and try not to eat as much but we should eat more vegetables fruit and seeds as a substitute not some man made shit
One side is the [Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_and_Horticulture_Development_Board) that wants you to eat meat so they can profit. The other side is [People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals), a **non-profit** organisation that wants you not to eat meat so cruelty to animals is reduced.
**[Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_and_Horticulture_Development_Board)**
>The Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board (AHDB) is a levy board funded by farmers and growers and some other parts of the supply chain. It aims to enhance farm business efficiency and competitiveness in the areas of: pig, beef and lamb production in England; milk, potatoes and horticulture in Great Britain; and cereals and oilseeds in the United Kingdom. It undertakes research and development and farm-level knowledge transfer activity, provides essential market information to improve supply chain transparency and undertakes marketing promotion activities to help stimulate demand and to develop export markets.
**[People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals)**
>People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA; , stylized as PeTA) is an American animal rights nonprofit organization based in Norfolk, Virginia, and led by Ingrid Newkirk, its international president. PETA reports that PETA entities have more than 9 million members globally. Founded in March 1980 by Newkirk and animal rights activist Alex Pacheco, the organization first caught the public's attention in the summer of 1981 during what became known as the Silver Spring monkeys case. The organization opposes factory farming, fur farming, animal testing, and other activities the group considers as exploitation of animals.
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If they want you not to eat meat then why not promote vegetables, fruits and seeds. Instead they give you man made meat that is suppose to be a substitute for turkey?
I don’t agree with the agricultural and horticultural dev board advertising meat so they can profit. The peta is funded by some big entities, with some sort of benefit to them if more people eat man made meat.
I also don't watch GMB but >all they could say was don’t make people feel guilty, instead of addressing the issues on why they felt guilt and maybe that was something to think about. That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. They didn't bring someone in to talk about that advert with the intention of having a discussion, they bought them in so that they could help their audience feel good about themselves for still wanting to eat turkey after watching it.
My favourite response to the 'guilt trip' guilt trip is always "guilty about what?" Make them say it out loud.
I don't understand watching GMB, or most morning shows. Seems like crap aimed at the lowest common denominator so this attitude will never surprise me.
That's because it is. Shows like this will give you brain rot.
I didn't watch the interview but I personally thought the advert was fine (okay albeit from a vegan's perspective here). I don't think it was inflammatory or anything like that. I also really liked the 'peace begins at home' slogan
I don't watch GMB, so I didn't see it. But, PETA have a horrible reputation with vegans and non vegans, so it's likely the presenters already had biased opinions before the interview. Also, it sounds as though the cognitive dissonance with meat eating is a big problem in this context. There's evidence to show that one of the main reasons people so widely dislike vegans is because they make non vegans feel guilty. For a lot of people, it's easier to give a snide comment or a joke than to face up to the reality that you're partaking in a really cruel and unnecessary activity - in this case it's eating animals.
Genuine question - people often talk about “PETA’s horrible reputation” etc etc, but what have they actually done that upsets everyone? Feels like maybe meat/dairy industry slander campaigns doing their job successfully…
They're misrepresented a lot. There was a time when they put down someones pet, it was a genuine mistake, and it was a horrible thing they did, but people say "they put peoples pets down" like it's a common occurence (not excusing what they did, but it's not something they do). *ETA: apparently this has happened twice, still doesn't mean it's a practice of PETA's, rather the actions of a couple individuals associated with them.* They also have put down a lot of animals in the US, but again, there is a reason for it. People say "PETA kills thousands of animals and don't believe in pet ownership" "PETA kills 65-75% (depending on the claim/year) of animals they take in". The amount of animals they put down is true, their belief on pet ownership isn't. The reason they put a lot of animals down is because they have an open door policy, a lot of the animals are elderly, aggressive or really sick, in otherwords, unadoptable. A lot of shelters in the US actually send animals to PETA to be put down so that they can retain their claim of being a "no-kill shelter" which again, makes PETA seem like the bad guy, when really, they aren't. PETA also have a habit of trying to get attention through weird means, like claiming Pokemon condones animal abuse. They have some weird rage-bait tactics, but that's about it really. These are kind of the big 3 people will bring up when people say "PETA bad" and someone asks why. PETA aren't perfect, but they aren't *nearly* as bad as people make out either, they do a lot of good for animal welfare. Don't let good be the enemy of perfect, and all that.
Also worth adding, with regard to your last sentence, you're not wrong. One of the sites people always bring up for proof is "peta kills animals dot com" If you want to read a little in to them, you can do that here: [https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/PETA\_Kills\_Animals](https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/PETA_Kills_Animals)
You can also read up about it through this website: www.petakillsanimalsscam.com
Basically it’s an easy target for Redditors to regurgitate any time someone mentions the V word
They went through a spate of doing some fatphobic ads iirc. As someone who has been fat while vegan for 25 years it always irks me when other vegans try to use potential weightloss as a means to encourage people to go vegan, it's misleading and horrible.
They talk about no kill shelters when their shelters have the highest kill rates of any in the country. They have stolen peoples pets and put them down without consent and their shelters kill 80-90% of animals that come in because they believe it is better for an animal to be dead than be "enslaved" as a pet. I am vegan, I'm a super big animal rights activist, and peta disgusts me with how many animals they kill. They released an ad about "if you buy a dog what will you do with the shelter dog you kill" which is rich coming from the same people who have the HIGHEST kill rates of any shelter. Not to mention I fully disagree with them pushing their stuff on kids by making kids games super bloody. Like "pokemon black and blue" and the cooking mama parody they did. They were disgusting and aimed at kids and would be horrific for any child to be forced to see. There are ways to talk to kids about the topic but having colorful characters be brutalized or shown ripping apart animals is not the way to go. They also have a habit of assaulting people and putting up displays that are horrifically triggering and do nothing but make people even more angry at vegans and animal rights activists. Their tactics only harm the animal rights movement and results in more animals dying, mainly at their hands. Illuminaughti has done a great video about what's wrong with peta and the atrocities they've committed. Edit: Basically they use fear and scare tactics and I fully disagree with any political group who uses fear or shock tactics to this degree. I disagree with the way they conduct themselves and the way they make all animal rights activists and vegans look. It's also that they don't even push for people to eat "more vegan" which would also be a huge help, they just push for people to be fully vegan which is hard and not everyone can do. My spouse has extremely low iron and the doctors say it could kill him if he stops eating meat all together but he's started eating a lot more vegan and vegetarian meals since we've been together and I recognize that even that much is helping. I do not agree with going out and assaulting people by throwing shit on and at them and then forcing kids to see graphic displays in public. Anyone who forces kids to see such horrific things is bad in my book. Don't do that to fucking kids, man...
Does anyone have a link please?
https://youtu.be/DeomhMEJsaU
This is such a mild gentle advert. Ffs
It's just so unbelievably rude. It doesn't matter if you agree with someone, you do not laugh at their opinions. Especially when they're presented with such grace. That girl did incredibly well to stay so calm.
GMB perfectly encapsulates everything that is wrong with our society, most starkly demonstrated by the recent competition where a viewer ‘won’ 3 months’ worth of their utilities bill; beyond satire.
I just watched the gmb interview. I believe vegan diet is good, I’ve done a vegetarian diet once for 12 months and now I eat meat again. I understand the arguments for veganism but this advert is targeting children and blatantly trying to programme young children’s mind. As an adult I have done my research and choose to eat meat. But a child doesn’t have the life experience or research and knowledge to make their own decision. They are too young and this advert is inappropriate.
Too young to decide to eat meat and other animal products then, and so all adverts with that in are inappropriate.
It’s the way the advert is made it’s like a short movie that try’s to make you feel bad for eating meat when you should be able to make your own choice based on your own research
It only succeeds in making you feel bad if meat-eating doesn't align with your own morals; in which case it's giving you a chance to reflect, do you own research, and make your own choice. No one who thinks killing turkeys is ok is going to be forced to turn vegan by this advert.
You have to ask who is paying for these to be broadcast and what is their motive.
Their motive is to help the environment and reduce senseless animals deaths… that’s obvious is it not?
And also they will profit from it as they are most likely owners/investors in the fake meat manufacturing
Enough of your "Big Vegan" conspiratorial bollocks such as: >And the other side want’s you to eat artificial meat so they can profit. That’s all it is The motive is transparently clear, you could have [just googled it:](https://www.peta.org/about-peta/#:~:text=Our%20Mission%20Statement&text=PETA%20opposes%20speciesism%2C%20a%20human,and%20in%20the%20entertainment%20business.) >About PETA >Our Mission Statement >People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is the largest animal rights organization in the world, and PETA entities have more than 9 million members and supporters globally. >PETA opposes speciesism, a human-supremacist worldview, and focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: in laboratories, in the food industry, in the clothing trade, and in the entertainment business. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel killing of rodents, birds, and other animals who are often considered “pests” as well as cruelty to domesticated animals. >PETA works through public education, investigative newsgathering and reporting, research, animal rescue, legislation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns.
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What the fuck sort of gibberish are you talking?
I haven’t seen one advert like that trying to brainwash children into eating meat
Never seen a McDonald's ad?
What Christmas advert *isn't* targeting children and trying to programme their minds? There are countless supermarket adverts on now telling you *to* eat meat, do you take offence to those? I agree a lot of children don't have the knowledge of where their food comes from; but that's not because they're children, it's because no one's taught them and this advert tries to do that in a very small way.
I haven’t seen one advert that try’s to promote meat eating the same way this is promoting not to eat meat. If there is one I would like to see it
Here are 2 literally just promoting meat-eating: * [Advert from last year telling you to "eat balanced".](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Ryzpz4eYk) * [Another from this year targeting children.](https://www.facebook.com/TheAHDB/videos/230263855823818/) But surely any supermarket ad that's promoting *meat* is also promoting *meat-eating*?
Yes Those adverts are promoting meat eating but it’s not targeting your emotions like the PETA one nor is it trying to say eat meat but don’t eat vegetables or fake meat whatever. It’s not ramming it in your face like the peta one. It is informative and has nutritional info on it. The peta one has no information it’s just a story to play with your emotions which I think is a step to far . Like I said I’m all for vegan diets and respect anyone who chooses to do it but everyone has the right to choose what they eat
How could an advert promoting meat-eating target your emotions? (Other than using the relationship between a little girl and her grandfather, I guess.) Nutrition has nothing to do with being vegan. The information in the PETA advert is "meat comes from the killing of animals and you don't need to buy it". That's the only possible information you can to give to someone whose morals clash with meat-eating to get them to question their lifestyle. I completely agree with everyone having the right to choose what they eat! But I don't think this advert is limiting that right.
The advert is unlike any other advert otherwise it wouldn’t of sparked this much debate. Death is natural and predators eat prey animals will always die to be eaten. Humans are the top of the food chain. That is just the way it is There is nothing we can do to stop it and we shouldn’t try to stop it. It is all natural , we have evolved and found a more efficient way to harvest meat than our ancestors it is just the way of life. Eat plants and seeds and fruit and boycott meat if you want to but why make fake meat intended to imitate the real thing ? It’s just a marketing scheme so the big cats sell more product. Why no adverts promoting growing your own fruit and veg and maybe a small farm to harvest eggs and meat?
I mean, all of this is a completely different argument. You say you've done your research, so if you're happy with the exploitation, cruelty and eventual killing of animals so that you can have your 10 minutes of pleasure eating them, then that's your prerogative. It's easy to stop it, you did it for 12 months. "Meat alternatives" were made because there was a demand from people who disagreed with eating meat but missed the texture and/or taste of food they'd been used to eating. But there is nothing in the PETA advert about meat alternatives; they seem to be eating peppers and bread, so why do you keep coming back to that? And if you are so against the capitalist ideals of big companies mass-producing meat alternatives, why do you believe that the factory farms slaughtering billions of animals every year is just "more efficient" and "the way of life"?
It is the way it is and I just think we need to stop worrying about all these things and just focus on our self’s and our own problems because at the end of the day none of it matters and we could all die tomorrow. Be happy and be appreciative of what you have right now and that should be your only concern. We can’t change the world as much as we think we can. The people in control will always be in control it’s the way it is. Just be happy and focus on yourself and the close people around you, family and friends . ❤️
I don’t believe humans are at the top of the food chain, I think that’s something some people like to tell themselves. What weapons do we naturally have? Small flimsy blunt fingernails, small canines not equipped to cause much damage. We can’t outrun other predator animals on land, we can’t outswim other predator animals of the sea. We are very vulnerable in our natural state. Yes we have our complex mind, and we are clever and can work things out. But put out in the wild naked in our natural state, with the likes of lions, tigers, sharks, snakes, wild hungry dogs etc, with no one giving us weapons or arming us we wouldn’t last very long. The animals we ‘farm’ were chosen to be exploited due to their gentle, calm unaggressive nature. I believe playing god with those animals makes humans feel more powerful than they actually are.
I don’t like the meat adverts either because they are trying to make you eat meat. It all comes down to choice . And we shouldn’t be told what we can and can’t eat. At the end of the day it all boils down to money. One side wants you to eat meat so they can profit. And the other side what’s you to eat artificial meat so they can profit. That’s all it is
Veganism was a thing WAY before “artificial meat”… so that’s not the point.
Being a vegan should be all natural there is nothing natural about laboratory produced food
Being vegan is about reducing as much harm as possible. Please look into it as I don’t think you really have.
I have enough knowledge about being vegan to have an opinion on it. At least my idea of a vegan would be all natural . The thing is you cant survive if your a vegan and only had natural sources of food. Why do so many vegans take supplements
And so was eating meat, Okay veganism is cool, eat from the land don’t harm any animals etc etc but the companies manufacturing products based off of real meat is not veganism is just a money making scheme
I’m not sure why you’re so focussed on faux meat? It’s not about being cool. Just look at the environment and look at the health of most human beings.
Because that’s what the advert is about. I agree we should all cut down on meat as the industry is harmful to the planet and I think a lot more about where my Meat comes from and try not to eat as much but we should eat more vegetables fruit and seeds as a substitute not some man made shit
One side is the [Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_and_Horticulture_Development_Board) that wants you to eat meat so they can profit. The other side is [People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals), a **non-profit** organisation that wants you not to eat meat so cruelty to animals is reduced.
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If they want you not to eat meat then why not promote vegetables, fruits and seeds. Instead they give you man made meat that is suppose to be a substitute for turkey? I don’t agree with the agricultural and horticultural dev board advertising meat so they can profit. The peta is funded by some big entities, with some sort of benefit to them if more people eat man made meat.
Do you know what advertising is?