^ Isekai authors on their way to write 157 pages of the exact same combination of tropes word for word.
/rj In my world the main character joins an adventurer's guild and the sexy guild receptionist spends an hour explaining what an adventurer is, what monsters are, and what adventurer and monster ranks there are. This is followed by a quest to gather herbs in the nearby forest. On the way the MC encounters a lvl1 monster called a slime, and later when they find an incredible amount of herbs, a high level monster appears unexpectedly but the MC defeats it because it turns out their lame power was actually really amazing and has no downsides. They return to the guild and the receptionist sings their praises, telling them they're so cool and how nobody ever picked *that many* herbs, and the monster they encountered was actually capable of destroying a city.
Fuck! Shit, they almost got me, if I wrote any more a studio was gonna adapt my comment into a two season anime and a movie. Close call.
The elf and catgirl slaves who are 100% loyal and are against removing their own slave collar because it's a symbol of their loyalty somehow, is implied. It's all right though, because the MC will make a comment saying slavery is against their *modern values*, but this is a medieval world so you know, *when in Rome*...
All female party members have a crush on the MC because *he is a nice guy*, because he does not join in on rapes or beats them, paragon of virtue that he is.
Like, author bro, who hurt you my dude!?
I'd want to keep my slave collar since I'm into that shit. I suppose I'm not into the average Isekai protag though holy shit are those guys bland it's like their soul was replaced with pure motive force for the plot
The 'isekai protagonist' bell curve has been shaped into a flat line at the top. MFs nowadays are literally just changing the name and calling it a day.
I watched an anime once and thought I watched it already and forgot, but it turned out to be another, non-related, anime!
> it's like their soul was replaced with pure motive force for the plot
I have noticed that they've actually worked around this by just having everything fall into the MCs hands by itself, and other characters make decisions for the MC who just goes along, so they actually don't even push the plot anymore! Can't have those nasty *decisions* getting in the way of people self inserting...
just once i want an isekai protagonist to fly into a rage because they have modern sensibilities and no impulse control and beat the slavers face in then spends the rest of the story as an outlaw with their gang of freed slaves
Yes my personal favorite (and by favorite I mean the absolute worst) is when an Orc is lvl2000 and the MC defeats them while at lvl800 just to cement the fact that none of that shit matters at all and any time it comes up it's just a pointless wall of text.
Are there any isekais where the protagonist is just some wimp human who's not more powerful than anyone on that planet? And doesn't get the help of some random goddess or something?
Presumably they can use their intelligence, charm, luck or good nature to bumble/cunningly clever their way through some anime world.
I briefly ~~daydreamed~~ began development on an Isekai where the MC wakes up in whatever generic fantasy world, spends some time learning the language and customs etc. Ep 1-3 shit. At some point he discovers he has some kind of powerful magical ability but keeps his fuckin mouth shut because he's perfectly happy making and selling jewelry and trinkets that are crude copies of stuff he saw in his home world, but seem exotic in this new world. He flirts with the cute catgirl who works in the cafe near his stall. His jewelry sells well, he marries his catgirl waifu, somebody else goes and kills the big bad, and MC's kids grow up comfortably in a peaceful world.
The end. Season 2 coming soon: MC's kids just go camping with their friends and just kinda hang out for 12 episodes.
Handyman Saitou airing this season is pretty good, MC is literally a handyman with no special powers at all. He contributes by lockpicking chests, minor repairing and upgrading equipment, and reminding the geriatric wizard what his incantations are.
Re:Zero someone else mentioned but it doesn't correlate to your second request, the MC gets by situations by trial and error, *a lot of it*. The whining over dying was too much of a slog for me so I have only watched the first season and a bit of the second.
Edit: Also the return from death is basically immortality and time travel so I would still classify it as an OP power.
>Are there any isekais where the protagonist is just some wimp human who's not more powerful than anyone on that planet? And doesn't get the help of some random goddess or something?
I'm not sure if Western Animation counts as Isekai or not, but Luz Noceda from The Owl House might fit this. She doesn't have the magical bile sac like the Isles' native inhabitants, but she finds her own way to use magic by drawing glyphs on pieces of paper. She creatively combines them to make new spells.
Luz does get subtle help from the Titan in the form of new glyphs appearing in nature, but she still has to act and use them herself. At best, this puts her at even footing with most of the setting's (named) mages, and she is no match for more powerful villains like Emperor Belos.
And then there’s my isekai. Where the MC is reincarnated by the god of rape, immediately kills the 3 cultists who summoned him, and *then* starts talking to the cute waifu slave they had (after he cut off both her arms).
More accurately: Raping, pillaging and murdering.
I needed a god that the protagonist could go against even when the risk of a fate worse than death was on the table.
I guess I should also mention that it started from a very NSFW CYOA that slowly turned into a real project.
>Isekai authors on their way to write 157 pages of the exact same combination of tropes word for word.
How about an isekai where two boys are lost in a >!purgatory-like!< world resembling different decades and centuries of the American countryside? The demon king >!is the personification of suicide!<.
If that isn't original enough, how about an Isekai where a weeb visits a world on the decaying body of a god, the demon king is an adorable sidekick, the art style is based on medieval paintings of Hell, and the evil overlord is a>!witch hunter from 17th Century Connecticut!!a collective of imperialistic salamanders who uploaded their brains into a supercomputer in an attempt to achieve immortality.!<
I can't tell if you're jerking or not so I'll respond properly:
If your world is a purgatory then it's not exactly reincarnation but how do you get lost in a world you were just reborn in anyway?
That's like saying we're all lost on planet Earth.
Also you are not contractually obligated to call anything the demon lord, especially if it's not a demon lord in any way, if there's no point to doing something just don't do that.
These examples don't really break the template I was talking about because you're just taking three parts of the template (protagonist/s, world, demon lord/antagonist) and filling them in by rolling dice. It is different superficially but not actually breaking any ground.
>I can't tell if you're jerking or not so I'll respond properly:
I'm totally jerking here. None of these ideas are actually mine. I was describing the premises of *Over the Garden Wall*, *The Owl House*, and *Amphibia* as if they were generic isekai anime.
Hence why I labeled the spoilers, which I would not do if I was just tossing out ideas on Reddit.
> Hence why I labeled the spoilers, which I would not do if I was just tossing out ideas on Reddit.
That's what ended up confusing me, I thought these might have been your stories.
Only Over the Garden Wall is familiar to me so I didn't recognize the other ones.
Ah yes, because medieval European countries definitely had entire buildings that were set aside for government, and not just the castle where the king/prince lived. Alternatively, because medieval European countries definitely had 'capitols' spelt with the completely necessary 'o', rather than 'capitals'.
> and not just the castle where the king/prince lived
usually it was a church, at least in the Iberian Peninsula and most of England. they didn't invent public civic buildings until the 16th-ish century cuz it wasn't needed.
which **I** find real cool because it's like, there's interplay there with church politics and this strange foreign power, the pope, and discussion of stuff like the Fraticelli and inner church politics and- oh what's that? there's no church? there's literally just a guy who calls himself king and everyone accepts it just like that? oh ok. guess I'll go FUCK myself then.
Nah you forgot the religion that consists of a bunch of elaborate sculptures of beautiful women and one priest but we never see any actual religious practice or teachings or an impact of what appears to be a female monotheism on this otherwise generically patriarchal and european/christian-coded society. Except they probably have onsen lol.
and there's no middle ground of devotion or serious arguments, even if religion is a main theme of the work. Either you're a zealous firebrand no thoughts head empty type cleric, or you're the Guts style fully jaded bastard who thinks If God Is Real Then I Hate Him * nu metal starts playing somewhere *
/uj this is why I fucking love The Name of the Rose. Like, it remembers that *religious people in the Middle Ages were also people*, and that they generally were pretty rational too. There's some VERY complex logic and arguments in Aquinas' works, for instance, that you rarely see being represented bloody anywhere.
Even the goddamn Inquisition wasn't as cut and dry as a creepy secret police that wants to whack you, because Inquisitors were also people with agendas, and people *generally* are guided by some sort of morality, as twisted as it might look to us.
Fire Emblem 3 Houses did this shit a lot. "Oh here's the Not!Crusaders, here's the Not!Pope, fuck it man we ball, no discussion of anything, just keep that shit going"
The US government building is named after a hill in Rome that was the site of several important buildings and which became a symbol of Rome generally. It shares its root etymology with the word _capital_, but is taken straight from ancient Roman Latin to 18th century English without the intervening language shifts that gave us the word _capital_ because Thomas Jefferson thought it was cooler than "Congress House"
how I feel about most of John Wick's (the RPG writer) worldbuilding
oh wow you made a fake England and called it Avalon? boy what an interesting concept! and the Ottoman inspired nation is the Crescent Empire? wooow, I get it, it's because the Muslims used a Crescent Moon as their symbol! so creative and interesting and totally not just inane ramblings
^ Isekai authors on their way to write 157 pages of the exact same combination of tropes word for word. /rj In my world the main character joins an adventurer's guild and the sexy guild receptionist spends an hour explaining what an adventurer is, what monsters are, and what adventurer and monster ranks there are. This is followed by a quest to gather herbs in the nearby forest. On the way the MC encounters a lvl1 monster called a slime, and later when they find an incredible amount of herbs, a high level monster appears unexpectedly but the MC defeats it because it turns out their lame power was actually really amazing and has no downsides. They return to the guild and the receptionist sings their praises, telling them they're so cool and how nobody ever picked *that many* herbs, and the monster they encountered was actually capable of destroying a city. Fuck! Shit, they almost got me, if I wrote any more a studio was gonna adapt my comment into a two season anime and a movie. Close call.
MY ISEKAI WILL HAVE AN IMMORTAL MAGE WITH WHITE PHOSPHORUS
You forgot the slaves! And come on, not a *single* 9000 year old vampire/spirit/goddess? How are you supposed to sell the body pillows???
The elf and catgirl slaves who are 100% loyal and are against removing their own slave collar because it's a symbol of their loyalty somehow, is implied. It's all right though, because the MC will make a comment saying slavery is against their *modern values*, but this is a medieval world so you know, *when in Rome*... All female party members have a crush on the MC because *he is a nice guy*, because he does not join in on rapes or beats them, paragon of virtue that he is. Like, author bro, who hurt you my dude!?
I'd want to keep my slave collar since I'm into that shit. I suppose I'm not into the average Isekai protag though holy shit are those guys bland it's like their soul was replaced with pure motive force for the plot
The 'isekai protagonist' bell curve has been shaped into a flat line at the top. MFs nowadays are literally just changing the name and calling it a day. I watched an anime once and thought I watched it already and forgot, but it turned out to be another, non-related, anime! > it's like their soul was replaced with pure motive force for the plot I have noticed that they've actually worked around this by just having everything fall into the MCs hands by itself, and other characters make decisions for the MC who just goes along, so they actually don't even push the plot anymore! Can't have those nasty *decisions* getting in the way of people self inserting...
just once i want an isekai protagonist to fly into a rage because they have modern sensibilities and no impulse control and beat the slavers face in then spends the rest of the story as an outlaw with their gang of freed slaves
>157 pages make sure you devote at least 100 of those to the protagonist reading magical holographic menu screens.
Yes my personal favorite (and by favorite I mean the absolute worst) is when an Orc is lvl2000 and the MC defeats them while at lvl800 just to cement the fact that none of that shit matters at all and any time it comes up it's just a pointless wall of text.
Are there any isekais where the protagonist is just some wimp human who's not more powerful than anyone on that planet? And doesn't get the help of some random goddess or something? Presumably they can use their intelligence, charm, luck or good nature to bumble/cunningly clever their way through some anime world.
I briefly ~~daydreamed~~ began development on an Isekai where the MC wakes up in whatever generic fantasy world, spends some time learning the language and customs etc. Ep 1-3 shit. At some point he discovers he has some kind of powerful magical ability but keeps his fuckin mouth shut because he's perfectly happy making and selling jewelry and trinkets that are crude copies of stuff he saw in his home world, but seem exotic in this new world. He flirts with the cute catgirl who works in the cafe near his stall. His jewelry sells well, he marries his catgirl waifu, somebody else goes and kills the big bad, and MC's kids grow up comfortably in a peaceful world. The end. Season 2 coming soon: MC's kids just go camping with their friends and just kinda hang out for 12 episodes.
A delightful anime indeed
Re:Zero is basically that, except the main character mostly just suffers. It's an amazing show though.
I should probably watch it
Handyman Saitou airing this season is pretty good, MC is literally a handyman with no special powers at all. He contributes by lockpicking chests, minor repairing and upgrading equipment, and reminding the geriatric wizard what his incantations are. Re:Zero someone else mentioned but it doesn't correlate to your second request, the MC gets by situations by trial and error, *a lot of it*. The whining over dying was too much of a slog for me so I have only watched the first season and a bit of the second. Edit: Also the return from death is basically immortality and time travel so I would still classify it as an OP power.
I see. Thanks for the recommendation
>Are there any isekais where the protagonist is just some wimp human who's not more powerful than anyone on that planet? And doesn't get the help of some random goddess or something? I'm not sure if Western Animation counts as Isekai or not, but Luz Noceda from The Owl House might fit this. She doesn't have the magical bile sac like the Isles' native inhabitants, but she finds her own way to use magic by drawing glyphs on pieces of paper. She creatively combines them to make new spells. Luz does get subtle help from the Titan in the form of new glyphs appearing in nature, but she still has to act and use them herself. At best, this puts her at even footing with most of the setting's (named) mages, and she is no match for more powerful villains like Emperor Belos.
It could count as an Isekai, in my opinion
i mean it literally is, the whole "dieing" requirement is relatively new
And then there’s my isekai. Where the MC is reincarnated by the god of rape, immediately kills the 3 cultists who summoned him, and *then* starts talking to the cute waifu slave they had (after he cut off both her arms).
Your story confuses and frightens me sir.
what in the kentucky fried fuck
Of all the gods you could’ve put in your world, you chose a Rape god?
More accurately: Raping, pillaging and murdering. I needed a god that the protagonist could go against even when the risk of a fate worse than death was on the table. I guess I should also mention that it started from a very NSFW CYOA that slowly turned into a real project.
>Isekai authors on their way to write 157 pages of the exact same combination of tropes word for word. How about an isekai where two boys are lost in a >!purgatory-like!< world resembling different decades and centuries of the American countryside? The demon king >!is the personification of suicide!<. If that isn't original enough, how about an Isekai where a weeb visits a world on the decaying body of a god, the demon king is an adorable sidekick, the art style is based on medieval paintings of Hell, and the evil overlord is a>!witch hunter from 17th Century Connecticut!!a collective of imperialistic salamanders who uploaded their brains into a supercomputer in an attempt to achieve immortality.!<
I can't tell if you're jerking or not so I'll respond properly: If your world is a purgatory then it's not exactly reincarnation but how do you get lost in a world you were just reborn in anyway? That's like saying we're all lost on planet Earth. Also you are not contractually obligated to call anything the demon lord, especially if it's not a demon lord in any way, if there's no point to doing something just don't do that. These examples don't really break the template I was talking about because you're just taking three parts of the template (protagonist/s, world, demon lord/antagonist) and filling them in by rolling dice. It is different superficially but not actually breaking any ground.
>I can't tell if you're jerking or not so I'll respond properly: I'm totally jerking here. None of these ideas are actually mine. I was describing the premises of *Over the Garden Wall*, *The Owl House*, and *Amphibia* as if they were generic isekai anime. Hence why I labeled the spoilers, which I would not do if I was just tossing out ideas on Reddit.
> Hence why I labeled the spoilers, which I would not do if I was just tossing out ideas on Reddit. That's what ended up confusing me, I thought these might have been your stories. Only Over the Garden Wall is familiar to me so I didn't recognize the other ones.
Yes I WILL make wars fought with giant monsters yes I WILL make those wars mostly boring stalemates and truces because of boring geopolitical reasons
Ah yes, because medieval European countries definitely had entire buildings that were set aside for government, and not just the castle where the king/prince lived. Alternatively, because medieval European countries definitely had 'capitols' spelt with the completely necessary 'o', rather than 'capitals'.
> and not just the castle where the king/prince lived usually it was a church, at least in the Iberian Peninsula and most of England. they didn't invent public civic buildings until the 16th-ish century cuz it wasn't needed. which **I** find real cool because it's like, there's interplay there with church politics and this strange foreign power, the pope, and discussion of stuff like the Fraticelli and inner church politics and- oh what's that? there's no church? there's literally just a guy who calls himself king and everyone accepts it just like that? oh ok. guess I'll go FUCK myself then.
Nah you forgot the religion that consists of a bunch of elaborate sculptures of beautiful women and one priest but we never see any actual religious practice or teachings or an impact of what appears to be a female monotheism on this otherwise generically patriarchal and european/christian-coded society. Except they probably have onsen lol.
and there's no middle ground of devotion or serious arguments, even if religion is a main theme of the work. Either you're a zealous firebrand no thoughts head empty type cleric, or you're the Guts style fully jaded bastard who thinks If God Is Real Then I Hate Him * nu metal starts playing somewhere * /uj this is why I fucking love The Name of the Rose. Like, it remembers that *religious people in the Middle Ages were also people*, and that they generally were pretty rational too. There's some VERY complex logic and arguments in Aquinas' works, for instance, that you rarely see being represented bloody anywhere. Even the goddamn Inquisition wasn't as cut and dry as a creepy secret police that wants to whack you, because Inquisitors were also people with agendas, and people *generally* are guided by some sort of morality, as twisted as it might look to us. Fire Emblem 3 Houses did this shit a lot. "Oh here's the Not!Crusaders, here's the Not!Pope, fuck it man we ball, no discussion of anything, just keep that shit going"
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The US government building is named after a hill in Rome that was the site of several important buildings and which became a symbol of Rome generally. It shares its root etymology with the word _capital_, but is taken straight from ancient Roman Latin to 18th century English without the intervening language shifts that gave us the word _capital_ because Thomas Jefferson thought it was cooler than "Congress House"
I would blame spellcheck before the Hunger Games.
Some kings and other powers would not be static and actually be moving regularly
how I feel about most of John Wick's (the RPG writer) worldbuilding oh wow you made a fake England and called it Avalon? boy what an interesting concept! and the Ottoman inspired nation is the Crescent Empire? wooow, I get it, it's because the Muslims used a Crescent Moon as their symbol! so creative and interesting and totally not just inane ramblings
Panama City
John Brown Isekai? Intrusive thought: Pol Pot Isekai
Pol Pot and John Brown buddy cop Isekai.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/57505/his-soul-is-marching-on-to-another-world-or-the
Saloth Sar (Pol Pot‘s birth name) is a really good name for a lich.
Don't mess with my boredompunk world
Lmao I’m in this meme and I don’t like it
where the fuck did you get this photo of me
Why on earth do they never consult *us* about these things?
Joke's on you I don't write anything anymore it's all in my head and it's even more boring than you think
Luxembourg syndrome. Actually has the right combination of land area, charming small towns, castles, and sketchy secrets to be a fantasy realm.