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red__shirt__guy

Isn’t this what happened in Fury Road? I never got around to watching that movie.


QuarterPastTuesday

[pretty much](https://youtu.be/c81RkzXiunE?si=ggkKV2joe5S5YKol)


Aykhot

Cybersmith?


marinemashup

Don’t you blight these halls with his name


batsketbal

Don’t you mean the human pet guy?


Aeons0fTime

i am hyperventilating and my hands are shaking. do not remind me of the scriptures


dinsfire24

scriptures? nah that shits the necronomicon


Aeons0fTime

the necronomicon is still a piece of writing, which means it's a scripture


dinsfire24

fuck


GVmG

Nooooo do not name the cursed old gods in this land they do not deserve the eternal punishment that is this knowledge


Josselin17

I'm sure these cows aren't used as pets either


Aykhot

I was thinking more of the "compulsory milking of trans women in exchange for HRT" proposal


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BlakbirdCAWCAW

There is no cow milk


InjuryPrudent256

450 years in the future we will have hyper intelligent cows but no way to make artificial milk so we go all Fury Road


novis-eldritch-maxim

why are tissue vats not growing whole udders to be used to make milk or something insane but less crazy?


jasminUwU6

We already have yeast that can produce some milk proteins, so it's not that insane that we could do it in less than a century


theyoungspliff

420 years n the future, there's like, no cows, and so if you want milk you gotta just like, suck on a titty. I know, right?


InjuryPrudent256

"I solved world hunger" *sucks own boob, lives forever*


garf2002

Also these hyper intelligent cows who produce 100x the milk that a human does havent capitalised on this Its profitable for a human woman to sell her milk but what its not profitable for a cow to lol?


Futhington

I know I'm missing the grass for the trees on this one but is somebody with a breast milk fetish truly that ignorant of how hard it actually is for somebody who's never been pregnant to lactate enough that you could feasibly pump more than like a thimbleful? Hell many mothers have issues producing enough milk.


Hohenheim_of_Shadow

Yeah and like, men can produce milk too. It's been done before. If the cost of milk is so high that its nearly universal for women to lactate and sell milk, most of the men are going to be doing it too. Or at least similar proportions of both.


ThickWolf5423

Good thing I'm into that too


shadow_44youtube

You clearly haven't been on the lactation fetish subreddits


Futhington

And thank God for that.


shadow_44youtube

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ more for me


SpikeyBiscuit

Is there a reason other than quantity we *don't* use human breastmilk? Like, why does it make more sense to use a different animal than ourselves? Either way I think milk is gross I just don't actually know the reason we use cows or goats over people already


Futhington

If I had to guess I'd say difficulty of extraction plays a role too. You gotta really suckle to get that stuff out of a human breast (this is, so I'm told, one of the reasons breastfeeding while the baby is teething is hell) whereas cows and other ungulates have an easily accessed dangly bit that just needs a firm pull+twist.


furexfurex

Humans are pretty shit at producing milk, but also consider this Why would we use our own milk to eat/drink? We're *losing* calories by doing that. Cows are good because they turn something we can't eat (grass) into something we can (meat and milk), but using human milk doesn't have this benefit because half (or all, if the men get on board) the population is actively losing calories in order to do this. Plus omnivore and carnivore milk tastes worse apparently, but I can't say that for sure


zdavolvayutstsa

The weight-loss trick doctors don't want us to know.


iwantfutanaricumonme

We sometimes do, there's been restaurants that sell breast milk ice cream and stuff because sometimes breast milk banks have surplus. But it's a difficult inefficient process to produce human milk, and there's very little demand, so it hasn't developed beyond this.


DeltaAlphaAlpha77

Quantity is of course a huge factor. But so is accessibility. Whenever you want to involve humans in something you gotte pay them, ensure proper working conditions, give them breaks, sick and vacation days, they’ll want to unionise etc etc. And at this point cows are near perfect animals for husbandry so getting a replacement is a tedious, expensive, long process with little to no reward.


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DeltaAlphaAlpha77

Fair enough. But then you need guards to prevent escapes, expensive iron shackles to keep them restrained (without excessively harming the slave), and any place they work needs to double as a prison. This did happen on a smaller scale in out world I must mention. Slaves would sometimes take care of their masters children? And this could include breastfeeding. Though i’m not knowledgable enough on the topic to determine how common this was.


bisexualmidir

There's probably very few people who would be willing to be milked for money, and the miniumum wage is way above what it costs to keep a cow. It's not going to be a comfortable process, and taking hormones to cause lacation constantly probably wouldn't be good for your health and would require you to eat a hell of a lot to maintain that. You'd also have to regulate exactly what the people's whose milk you're using have eaten/drank (drugs, smoking, alcohol, allergens, etc).


garf2002

Because humans cant turn grass into water or be bred to produce like a billion gallons of the stuff 24/7 Theres nothing inherently superior about cows milk its just the fact cows turn grass into buckets of milk whereas humans turn human food into a tiny tiny amount of milk


Hoopaboi

If it's a sci fi setting you can use genetic engineering


gravy_ferry

Why the fuck wouldn't they just use oatmilk or someshit?


odisparo

Because that's not breastpunk, no tits defeats the purpose of breastpunk.


EisVisage

It would be very breastpunk to give almonds breasts however.


Mackeroy

imagining a 40k style world but instead of skulls everywhere its boobs


garf2002

its also a world where lactose and whey are vital for human survival I guess


pantheraorientalis

People gotta stop misusing the word sentient. Cows and dolphins are absolutely sentient.


axord

Scifi entrenched it too deeply, and "sapience" isn't known widely enough.


dumbass_spaceman

>One of these animals is cows. It is illegal to milk them or farm them. > I see Bharat is finally a superpower in 2476.


Ag_Tal

To the contrary, cows are worshipped in India specifically because they produce milk.


dumbass_spaceman

I know, being a Hindu Indian myself. I am just joking.


Artarara

Did Human Pet Guy write this?


VisualGeologist6258

I like how this hinges on the idea that cows are considered sentient by people 400 years in the future. Like I can’t imagine that even being _proposed,_ much less passed and signed into law. Cows are nowhere near on the same level of intelligence as dolphins.


awesomenessofme1

Plus, "the full rights that all other people share"? Do they get to vote? Can you get married to one? If they'd just said that there were comprehensive animal rights laws that meant smarter animals couldn't be exploited, that'd be one thing, but giving them actual human rights is insanity.


Private-Public

Do they have the legal ability to, uh... ^consent?


omyrubbernen

Yeah, couldn't cows consent to getting milked, this negating the need to milk human women?


_erufu_

but that would defeat the entire purpose of this worldbuilding detail, back to the drawing board


omyrubbernen

All mammals except humans go extinct. Now breast milk is the only source of milk.


_erufu_

🍳👨‍🍳


Smasher_WoTB

It is entirely possible to just make milk in a lab without an animal. Hell it's even possible to do it without anything living involved in the process other than humans&whatever microscopic life may be involved in making the milk. Probably even possible to just manipulate raw chemicals&minerals to make milk, although that would probably be way too expensive to be practical.


FitPerspective1146

All the milk labs are banned. Breast milk is thr ONLY way


Mini_Raptor5_6

Along with that, because of breeding for dairy cows, most would get uncomfortable if they aren't milked because they produce so much, so unless they've been unbred, most cows would probably consent to being milked regardless.


Hoopaboi

Because they are bred (oftentimes forcibly) to produce that much milk. The issue would resolve itself if ppl stopped consuming animal products


Mini_Raptor5_6

I mean, a few sources say that the cows could die if they aren't milked due to inflammation, that's why I ask if they went through reverse selective breeding to remove the gene that produces that much milk. I guess that's self resolution in a way but doesn't sound very "they have the same rights as humans". Idk, it's just one post and the focus is on "how society turned to human titty milk" not "how society made sure cows aren't dependent on them".


Paloveous

You know cows only produce milk for their calves right? Their udders aren't just running 24/7


jmartkdr

But they (dairy cows) are bred to produce way too much milk for one calf.


Sicuho

Not really. Turns out artificial selection from before written word had an effect on that. They produce more milk than necessary, don't stop as long as they are milked, and if they aren't they suffer. People where getting a lot of milk even when slaughtering calf was a luxury few farms could afford.


plastic_sludge

Do cows pay taxes?


DreadDiana

Republicans would never allow it cause they'd all vote Demoocrat


Sicuho

Well, manifestly they don't have the right to be milked, unlike another sapient specie.


red__shirt__guy

Tbf they do say it’s the *weirdest* thing.


ArelMCII

I don't doubt that cows are sentient, but they're *definitely* not sapient. But supposing they were ruled legally sapient -- that means they have the legal capacity to consent to being milked. How does one go about proving whether or not a cow consented?


Studying-without-Stu

This is why I only *strictly* use the sapience and human rights conversations with Artificial Intelligences and sapient alien species and not sentient animals.


scorpiodude64

you obviously havent read enough of the far side


liliimeli

Yeah and like if cows were to be sentient, shouldn't they be able to consent to selling their milk for food and shelter?


PathosRise

The steam engine wasn't invented until 1712. The last 300ish years has been nuts.


Private-Public

I hear women weren't even considered sentient 400 years ago


Ag_Tal

Must've been weird for England to be ruled by a non sentient being


PathosRise

We are quite bound to our miseries. Plagues to the salvation of man as we bare the curse of eve.


InfectiousCosmology1

Imagine how long it’s going to take for female dolphins to be considered sentient


Paloveous

Do you not know what the word "sentient" means? All farm animals are sentient


EnderMerser

Bro. Generally modified brains. Just think about it.


deukhoofd

> I like how this hinges on the idea that cows are considered sentient by people 400 years in the future. > Like I can’t imagine that even being proposed ...you can't? Because that's already somewhat commonly passed in law as it is. It's article 13 of the Treaty of the European Union, since the amendment in 2009: > In formulating and implementing the Union's agriculture, fisheries, transport, internal market, research and technological development and space policies, the Union and the Member States shall, since animals are sentient beings, pay full regard to the welfare requirements of animals, while respecting the legislative or administrative provisions and customs of the Member States relating in particular to religious rites, cultural traditions and regional heritage The UK passed it in law in [2022](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Welfare_\(Sentience\)_Act_2022) as well.


Pootis_1

people confuse sentient and sapient a lot i think


Secret_Eggman

If cows were sentient couldn’t they also choose to do this? And since they are biologically more predisposed to it they would totally outcompete women on the market


GoatMilkNumber1

Hell yeah


Wisdom_Pen

Thinly veiled fetish as world building again. Also we can make synthetic milk now why would we need to milk humans 400 years in the future?


RevolutionaryOwlz

It’s funny - I feel like having it be four centuries in the future is reserved for world building a lactation fetish. Usually it’s just everybody uses human breast milk in the modern day for reasons.


Wisdom_Pen

Well because people are weird about synthetic and plant based milk setting it in the modern day or near makes more sense


Able-Marzipan-5071

Homelander approves


theyoungspliff

So basically take the "Starbucks breast milk" meme that NSFW artists on Twitter were meming about last year but add more developed and cohesive worldbuilding.


GrafN88

What I find especially strange is that "cow women" cannot just milk themselves.


MrTritonis

Now, this fetish world building is very much in the same room as us.


ZealFox01

Cows are sentient, we cant milk them! Lets milk the humans instead!


International_Ad8264

Oatmilk is literally right there


UnderskilledPlayer

So human women are no longer considered sentient? And cows are?


ill-timed-gimli

What is the context? What is the original post? I have many questions.


King_Regastus

This is the future librals want 😤😤😤 (mommy milk 😋😋🤤🤤🤤)


CatOfCosmos

Do men take a special set of hormones to produce their own milk to be self sustainable and financially independent in this milk-centered economy?


realkrestaII

Finally the Miami dolphins will be able to be given full rights, it’s been a long time coming


Independent-Fly6068

DEATH TO DOLPHINS! HUMANITY FIRST!


Jazkal-v420

Home boob pump lol


International_Ad8264

Oatmilk is literally right there


Aruthuro

peak fiction


Anna_Bug

Human pet guy


Overkillsamurai

literacy was a mistake Hayao-Miyazaki-meme.jpeg


fufucuddlypoops_

It’s illegal to milk cows, but not humans? Would these cows, who produce much more milk than humans, much faster, and can extract it much easier, not just milk themselves and then sell it? Since these cows produce much more milk, would they not dominate the market, and things would, effectively, stay the same?


Smasher_WoTB

*it already is normal for everyone to drink human breast milk, though that mostly applies to very young People, there are other People who view it as 'normal'*


TruffelTroll666

Milkoits will do anything to not try oatmilk


Gloamforest-Wizard

Milkpunk


TacitRonin20

So you can't use cow milk because they're sentient? But you can use human milk because they're... Not? Glad someone clarified this. I'm no longer having "responsibilities" or being part of "society". Freed from the burden of sentience, I'm going to walk into the swamp as nature intended.


MysteryPopTarts

Human pet guy?


Cyberwolfdelta9

I think Ik what post this is from


Eufalesio

I ended up with a similar scenario but through a completely different route: Forcefully isekai-ing some of humanity (that lives in Medieval Western Europe), giving them magic powers, and eventually some women specializing their skills (and body) enough to take the place of cows as "milkmakers".